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Inspector Sands11,241 posts since 25 Aug 2004
I always liked the flags branding. I'd forgotten that the News 24 version had a couple of real flags on them - England and Scotland. The concept when the original 1995 ones for World were designed was that they were generic elements from flags without featuring any actual ones
Andrew12,160 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
They aren't flawless though, their greater detail can result in less accuracy.

They struggle to denote showers well, leaving people to think it will rain exactly where the blue blob is and will be dry where there isn't a blue blob whereas it actually means there will be showers across the whole area
deejay2,607 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (South) Oxford
The flags concept was one developed from the BBC World 1995 look, which to this day remains very classy IMO.

A 1995 junction, starting with the end of a break filler (before the Automated Breakfiller was introduced, generic monthly highlights trails filled the breaks), then a trail for World Business Report, then symbol to a news bulletin with Peter Dobbie.


This is appears to be a partial copy of the laserdisc for BBC World 1995 and includes clean symbols, break bumpers, stings and news titles:

I suspect, given the Japanese breakdown slides to was the end of the clip, this was a tape sent to a partner broadcaster in the region.
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Richard654 posts since 22 Apr 2012
Granada North West Today
A lot of people seem to hate the post-2005 weather maps on here - personally I think they're infinitely better than the old symbols. I find it a very odd experience watching the ITV which still uses symbols for the most part.

Yeah they're so much more detailed and contain much more information than anything the other broadcasters do.

Having one cloud to represent several hundred square miles of land just isn't good enough

I agree to an extent, but the current weather maps do use randomising when displaying rain/cloud cover over a particular place. It isn't as accurate as the picture implies.
Justin310 posts since 9 Oct 2014
BBC World
Shame that the flag idents didn't last longer. I enjoy the pips and everything after but I think some of the sombre music used on BBC World was just superb compared to everything else at the time. News 24 was also quite good, but it didn't sound as authoritative to me.

The BBC World music just screamed authority when you heard it.
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noggin12,538 posts since 26 Jun 2001
One aspect of the flags look did actually last right through to 2013 - the World Business Report music. The music may have been remixed in 2000, but it was the same tune as it was in 1997.


There's one bit that has lasted longer and is still on-air I think. Dateline London was a launch show ('Dateline London with Charles Wheeler') and I think it retains the original 1997 music. Charles is much missed. Amazing bloke.
VMPhil7,840 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
One aspect of the flags look did actually last right through to 2013 - the World Business Report music. The music may have been remixed in 2000, but it was the same tune as it was in 1997.


There's one bit that has lasted longer and is still on-air I think. Dateline London was a launch show ('Dateline London with Charles Wheeler') and I think it retains the original 1997 music. Charles is much missed. Amazing bloke.

Indeed, the original titles of which you can see here

https://youtu.be/8cfIkCPiHx8?t=3m01s
radiolistener446 posts since 8 Aug 2010
I think the greatest thing about this package for me was the music. It's hard to believe it was only used for two years, and only on News 24 in an era where few would have heard it unless you watched BBC One overnight.


Hated the look with the flags, it was totally meaningless.
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radiolistener446 posts since 8 Aug 2010
I always liked the flags branding. I'd forgotten that the News 24 version had a couple of real flags on them - England and Scotland. The concept when the original 1995 ones for World were designed was that they were generic elements from flags without featuring any actual ones


Which was pointless. Why not use proper flags to signify "world news", ending or / and beginning with the flags of the "home nations"? It was just typical BBC politically correct nonsense.
deejay2,607 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (South) Oxford
I always liked the flags branding. I'd forgotten that the News 24 version had a couple of real flags on them - England and Scotland. The concept when the original 1995 ones for World were designed was that they were generic elements from flags without featuring any actual ones


Which was pointless. Why not use proper flags to signify "world news", ending or / and beginning with the flags of the "home nations"? It was just typical BBC politically correct nonsense.


No, it was nothing to do with being politically correct. It was all to do with being politically neutral . The BBC is well respected globally for being unbiased in its reporting and editorially independent of any agenda or government.

"Home nations" flags were not featured in World's branding because BBC World is not and has never been a uk focussed channel.
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