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Moz
w12 posted:
Dave posted:
They did it again today at 4.25 ish and she said they will be doing it again tomorrow - i guess at the same time

They had someone holding the camera this time rather than controlling it from a remote place!


It does have someone holding the camera in a "beneath the armpit" position. It's the camera that's normally on a rostrum in the half-heads/occasional sport heads position - the cable's tugged out a bit and round the corner. Camera 7 if you're a real anorak! It needs careful production and sensible camerawork to work, but I think it looks good.

By the way, that's EXACTLY the kind of thing News 24 was meant to be doing when it launched! All the ideas back in winter/spring 1997 involved presenters getting up from their desks, wandering off into the newsroom (now the World newsroom), finding reporters sitting at their desks and talking about them to the stories. Then reality set in, N24 realised that getting the right package to follow the right link was pushing the production systems right to their limit, and the idea was abandoned well before launch (9/11/97). The closest the channel ever got was occasional headlines from in front of the gallery (or "output suite" in late 90's BBC Newspeak), done from a remote camera above the set. But now it's happened - and you can bet it won't be abandoned after the election! It's fresh, has energy, a sense of being live, and a slight sense of risk (and that's real)....

Scruffy bunch of producers though, aren't they?

Got it to work, and it looks really good. Please News 24, keep doing it!

I liked Jon's comment, "here in the engine room, the grubby bit where the real work goes on"!
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Sput
Would it be reasonable to assume that they aren't using a bona-fide cameraperson to shoot that? Still looks a little wobbly - still, good job - looks very effective.

Some caps from today's for those without the ability or the inclination...
Having a fab old time handing over
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benjy
Have to say the newsroom looks very nice from "inside", very space-agey. This hopping into the newsroom for interviews is a nice feature and I hope it stays.

It's still ashame that the glass between the studio and the newsroom looks as if its had some kind of grease smeared all over it. It would be much nicer if it were clear glass.
MO
Moz
8.30 BOTH news summary from the right hand set rather than the summary pod - oops, you can see the Autocue behind her! Now she's handing back to Chris before she's finished!
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Matrix
I really like the new News 24 Newsroom bit. I have to admit it does look rather fab, made me go green looking at my surroundings this afternoon.
I think News 24 should try this for a while, get used to using the newsroom for Pres and then develop upon using the space, possible do a "BBC News Today" on us!
In respect to the autocue, it was clearly visible the other day as well. Karin, Overnight caster introduced with the words from the cue clearly visible. ( I think we've found a flaw in the BBC News "Look". Midlands Today, who have recenty had a rather fab facelift also experienced this problem over the weekend with Micheal having to keep turning)
Other than that it looks really good. Now all we needs a news wall.
MA
Magoo
News24 posted:
I was about to post the same thing. Yes her name is Rachel Schofield and I've never seen her before, although she is quite good.


I believe that this is her News 24 presenting debut!!
I've searched the BBC website and it appears that she used to be a Radio 4 presenter/reporter on programmes such as Woman's Hour. I'm sure that NickyS or one of the other BBC insiders will be able to enlighten us.
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Moz
scottish posted:
News24 posted:
I was about to post the same thing. Yes her name is Rachel Schofield and I've never seen her before, although she is quite good.


I believe that this is her News 24 presenting debut!!
I've searched the BBC website and it appears that she used to be a Radio 4 presenter/reporter on programmes such as Woman's Hour. I'm sure that NickyS or one of the other BBC insiders will be able to enlighten us.

Apart from the odd mistake, which is to be expected if it's her presenting debut, she's excellent. Relaxed and different.
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Matrix
Moz posted:
scottish posted:
News24 posted:
I was about to post the same thing. Yes her name is Rachel Schofield and I've never seen her before, although she is quite good.


I believe that this is her News 24 presenting debut!!
I've searched the BBC website and it appears that she used to be a Radio 4 presenter/reporter on programmes such as Woman's Hour. I'm sure that NickyS or one of the other BBC insiders will be able to enlighten us.

Apart from the odd mistake, which is to be expected if it's her presenting debut, she's excellent. Relaxed and different.


Ohh she's good. Excellent debut. Good to be BBC New Talent isn't just looking for Dj's....
W1
w12
scottish posted:
News24 posted:
I was about to post the same thing. Yes her name is Rachel Schofield and I've never seen her before, although she is quite good.


I believe that this is her News 24 presenting debut!!
I've searched the BBC website and it appears that she used to be a Radio 4 presenter/reporter on programmes such as Woman's Hour. I'm sure that NickyS or one of the other BBC insiders will be able to enlighten us.


Not debut, she did some shifts back in 2003.
W1
w12
w12 posted:
By the way, that's EXACTLY the kind of thing News 24 was meant to be doing when it launched! All the ideas back in winter/spring 1997 involved presenters getting up from their desks, wandering off into the newsroom (now the World newsroom), finding reporters sitting at their desks and talking about them to the stories. Then reality set in, N24 realised that getting the right package to follow the right link was pushing the production systems right to their limit, and the idea was abandoned well before launch (9/11/97). The closest the channel ever got was occasional headlines from in front of the gallery (or "output suite" in late 90's BBC Newspeak), done from a remote camera above the set. But now it's happened - and you can bet it won't be abandoned after the election!


Forgive me for quoting myself...! This idea isn't something that the powers that be at News 24 have been constantly trying to do for the last 7 1/2 years.... I'd say that only 10% or so of the people actively involved in News 24 now were there at launch, and the original faces at the top are long gone. But the same ideas always keep coming around in TV News - and occasionally the technology makes it possible, and it finally happens!

I hope Tim Orchard - News 24's founder - was watching....
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Moz
Summary again from the right hand set, not summary pod. Is this linked to the 'engine room' presentation earlier? Did someone drop the camera or pull it's cable to hard!
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cat
w12 posted:
But now it's happened - and you can bet it won't be abandoned after the election! It's fresh, has energy, a sense of being live, and a slight sense of risk (and that's real)....

Scruffy bunch of producers though, aren't they?


They really know how to push the boundaries, don't they...

After all, their main rival has only been doing it for the best part of 4 years now, and Five News were doing it before News 24 was even on air.

If that's 'fresh' for the BBC, one can only wonder what 'out of date' looks like.

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