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PE
Pete Founding member
The first sentence is a parody of a line from the film Anchorman, which any TVForumer should have watched. In this film the lead character Ron Burgandy pays the voice over man to refer to his new female co-anchor as "tits maggee" during their spat.

The look north parody is of course a reference to the fact tha Christa Ackeroid had her "boobiedoos" lifted (but not enlarged).

Secondly "maybe it's your clooks" refers to a classic quote from our dislexic friend.



CLEARLY you do not read the forum as well as others. I tut at you.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Please can we call an end to this discussion? It's getting tedious now. If you want to discuss signatures, I suggest you do so by PM with the member in question. Let's get back to discussing BBC News 24....
JA
Jakarta
Well said. It's interesting what someone said earlier - about how they might refresh the newsroom to make it 'friendlier'. I'm not wanting to get back into all the speculation, but I think a few tweaks here and there would be good. They have a really good newsroom behind the desk, but there is still too much distance between the newsreaders and the newsroom I feel. I wish they would bring the newsroom right up to the glass partition. I also wish they would use the newsroom in some way - my suggestion would be that when there are headlines ahead of a 30 minutes past the hour programme such as HardTalk or Dateline London, instead of doing the headlines from the desk or the pod, the newsreader should be in the newsroom leaning against a desk to read the headlines and introduce the programme. That's what I'd like to see at least.
JO
Joshua
If they wanted to have a more newsroom feel, they could always take down half of the glass. So the glass would stop at the red banner and silver bar.
Whenever the changes are, I think the studio doesn't really need changing. Its light enough, big enough and does the job. If they did do something, I think it would be something like changing the desk to have the black class on top so there would be no more laptops, even though I do like them.
PR
Primetime
I think it looks very messy with the laptops on the desk. As when their is a guest infront of them is the laptop from the side. I think they should have a black glass top on the desk, with computer monitors underneath, similar to ITV News and BBC News on BBC One.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Andrew Tyne Tees posted:
I think it looks very messy with the laptops on the desk. As when their is a guest infront of them is the laptop from the side. I think they should have a black glass top on the desk, with computer monitors underneath, similar to ITV News and BBC News on BBC One.


BBC World also has a glass-topped desk. News 24 is now the only national output to use laptops. I too think it looks awfully messy.
JA
Jakarta
At first I liked the laptops - it was different, modern and I noticed the newsreader using the laptop more than I noticed when there is an 'under the glass' set-up. Now though, I'm not too sure. Perhaps if the laptops weren't so cheap looking I would feel different, could it be anymore obvious that they are from Dell?! Glass top a la BBC World does instantly look more sophisticated though.
MA
Matrix
Jakarta posted:
Glass top a la BBC World does instantly look more sophisticated though.


Just a shame about the rest of the World set. Laughing

I really do think the newsroom could be utilised more. It's definitely one aspect which would seem fresh and different. News 24 have now shaken off their image of purely behind the desk news of a few years ago and, like Sky did, having something (anything) from the "engine room" would be nice. The general election was supposed to have tested the water for such an item. I was led to believe there was an issue of cameras, more precisely lack of them.

I do wonder whether this will change. I've noticed the weekend sections on News 24 now seem to have a dedicated focus on politics, story, sport ect. This usually sees a presenter and correspondent discussing the week for a good 15 minutes. Perhaps then would be a good time to have such a feature or even the peak morning hours would be good albeit slightly prior Sky News Today. I mean, how hard would it be to send a camera into the newsroom?

Laptops. A pet hate. I have never understood the purpose of them. They simply seemed to be an illustration of technological wizardry (and eventually it's obsolesce). The relaunched Six first had the things in that god-awful studio. Like other posters have said, having a glass top looks much more professional and purpose built. What having visible laptops does remind me of was those TV screens on the '80s on Channel Four News which now-a-days seem ridiculously a faux pas.

I would like to see a change of certain things, namely title sequences and beds and to me they seem the most likely. The headline bed of the moment has been running since the relaunch now. It seemed 'tired' after a week, although, and I have to say this, the bed does sound more promising towards the end with what seems to be a different 'dum, dum, dum'. BBC World's bed seems the right mix in my opinion, punchy and yet modern. I'd like to see News 24 with something like this...

Although, after all this speculation, rumour and cat-fighting, I wouldn't be surprised to see this "great relaunch" amount to nothing more than a change in how the graphics animate.
NE
News24
It would be nice to have an increased use of presenter being sent into the newsroom - they did a good spell of this during elections coverage, and then again a while later, but haven't done this for a while. The main issue is that the camera from the left hand pod needs to be used. Anyone familiar with studio cameras and PSC cameras will know how much of a big job it is to strip the camera down and get it in a format to enable it to be operated handheld in the newsroom. Plus, it's cabled, which is more of a nightmare.

Laptops - it would be a lot easier for presenters to have laptops rather than glass topped desk / PC monitors, as there is a huge amount of use for them, breaking news means they have to constantly refer to them. It would be easier to have the laptops than leaning into the desk to try and read the news wires. Also looks more attractive on screen when the presenter is making use of their laptop - it wouldn't look or sound as good during breaking news if the presenter was looking down into the desk. I agree it can look messy from time to time when guests are in, but the most experienced regular presenters always closes their laptop or moves it.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Matrix posted:
Jakarta posted:
Glass top a la BBC World does instantly look more sophisticated though.


Just a shame about the rest of the World set. Laughing

I really do think the newsroom could be utilised more. It's definitely one aspect which would seem fresh and different. News 24 have now shaken off their image of purely behind the desk news of a few years ago and, like Sky did, having something (anything) from the "engine room" would be nice. The general election was supposed to have tested the water for such an item. I was led to believe there was an issue of cameras, more precisely lack of them.

I do wonder whether this will change. I've noticed the weekend sections on News 24 now seem to have a dedicated focus on politics, story, sport ect. This usually sees a presenter and correspondent discussing the week for a good 15 minutes. Perhaps then would be a good time to have such a feature or even the peak morning hours would be good albeit slightly prior Sky News Today. I mean, how hard would it be to send a camera into the newsroom?

Laptops. A pet hate. I have never understood the purpose of them. They simply seemed to be an illustration of technological wizardry (and eventually it's obsolesce). The relaunched Six first had the things in that god-awful studio. Like other posters have said, having a glass top looks much more professional and purpose built. What having visible laptops does remind me of was those TV screens on the '80s on Channel Four News which now-a-days seem ridiculously a faux pas.

I would like to see a change of certain things, namely title sequences and beds and to me they seem the most likely. The headline bed of the moment has been running since the relaunch now. It seemed 'tired' after a week, although, and I have to say this, the bed does sound more promising towards the end with what seems to be a different 'dum, dum, dum'. BBC World's bed seems the right mix in my opinion, punchy and yet modern. I'd like to see News 24 with something like this...

Although, after all this speculation, rumour and cat-fighting, I wouldn't be surprised to see this "great relaunch" amount to nothing more than a change in how the graphics animate.



On the subject of desks, I am loving the AJE ones in Doha and KUL. They are amazing - huge and imposing and - IMO - that's what they should be like! Battleships!

Don't like the use of laptops at all. CNNI has now gone and given laptops to the anchors in London and Atlanta. Something cringeworthy about them.

Not quite as cringeworthy however, as the fake computers and keyboards that BBC Reporting Scotland used to have in the eighties, just at the point where Jackie Bird joined the channel. Hideous.

The whole N24 set and studio always looks a bit shambolic. HRH The Prince of Wales would call it a "carbuncle".
JW
JamesWorldNews
BBC WORLD posted:
[The whole N24 set and studio always looks a bit shambolic. HRH The Prince of Wales would call it a "carbuncle".




Sorry.......I should have realised... that's what he called Witchell....not the studio.
BB
bbc140
SO, What was the conclusion... are we to expect graphics tweeks tomorrow or not... anyone!

Thanks

bbc140

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