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MO
Moz
James Hall posted:
Moz posted:
Thus someone just sat there reading goes in one ear and out the other. If what that person is saying is backed up by text on the screen, you take in twice as much. Add pictures and it doubles again.


So newsreaders are redundant in many respects then?

I just feel that graphics coming out of the reporters' ears on VTs is not appropriate, and that the money would be far better spent improving quality of news and training journalists rather than adding tacky garb onto the screen.

Of course newsreaders aren't redundant, I said that both are needed, and the graphics of course should be high quality, not tacky garb coming out of reporters' ears - you're just using extreme, unrealistic, examples.
JA
jamesmd
The kind of examples that are put up for scrutiny by Storyfix commonly - surely that's because even the BBC think they're tacky and ridiculous?

To be honest, a great big walloping 10% on a screen behind the reporter when they're talking about a 10% reduction in crime since 1994 is less important to me than just knowing that there has been a 10% reduction. I don't need figures patronising my listening skills, thanks.
MO
Moz
James Hall posted:
To be honest, a great big walloping 10% on a screen behind the reporter when they're talking about a 10% reduction in crime since 1994 is less important to me than just knowing that there has been a 10% reduction. I don't need figures patronising my listening skills, thanks.

You're wrong I'm afraid. If you asked a group of people after they watched the report without the 10% and another group of people after they watched the report with the 10% it's been proven again and again that more of those who saw the report with the 10% would remember the figure. Listening skills or no listening skills! That's not patronising, it's being clear.
JA
jamesmd
Ok, point taken - but the fact remains you can't fit a f*cking newswall into the newsroom!
MO
Moz
James Hall posted:
Ok, point taken - but the fact remains you can't fit a f*cking newswall into the newsroom!

OK, point taken!

So, anyone know what's happening with the new graphics? They were seen on air recently in what seems to have been a mistake, and I can't see that happening unless a change was expected soonish. However some people have been saying there's nothing due for several months, mid spring sort of time.
HA
harshy Founding member
Bail posted:
harshy posted:
noggin posted:
Ant posted:
I hate when the weather is broadcast from the studio. First of all, the screen is too dull to actually make out anything (probably too many lights shining on it) and it just seems completely pointless. I don't mind seeing the weather in N6, but not in the News 24 studio.

I'd prefer to actually see the forecast. Not, as the poster above says, bad banter.


It isn't just the lights shining on it that are a problem (though the presenter is too close to avoid their key light hitting the screen as well) - it is also that the projector and screen are in a reasonably brightly lit office (with windows and working lights) - rather than a studio which can be kept dark where projectors are working.


Looks light all these problems well so called problems are because News 24 and World are not in a real studio, will BBC News 24 and World move into proper studios in a few years time?


Would you want them to? I like the fact that they really are coming from the newsroom, why is a fancy newswall needed to tell me the news? All a newswall would do is show me extra graphics, which if they're on a wall I wont be able to read anyway.


no in fact if you look at the TV Forum archive, you'll find I said that I wanted BBC News 24's set to be located at the heart of the newsroom like BBC World's, of course it is now.
BA
Bail Moderator
harshy posted:
Bail posted:
harshy posted:
noggin posted:
Ant posted:
I hate when the weather is broadcast from the studio. First of all, the screen is too dull to actually make out anything (probably too many lights shining on it) and it just seems completely pointless. I don't mind seeing the weather in N6, but not in the News 24 studio.

I'd prefer to actually see the forecast. Not, as the poster above says, bad banter.


It isn't just the lights shining on it that are a problem (though the presenter is too close to avoid their key light hitting the screen as well) - it is also that the projector and screen are in a reasonably brightly lit office (with windows and working lights) - rather than a studio which can be kept dark where projectors are working.


Looks light all these problems well so called problems are because News 24 and World are not in a real studio, will BBC News 24 and World move into proper studios in a few years time?


Would you want them to? I like the fact that they really are coming from the newsroom, why is a fancy newswall needed to tell me the news? All a newswall would do is show me extra graphics, which if they're on a wall I wont be able to read anyway.


no in fact if you look at the TV Forum archive, you'll find I said that I wanted BBC News 24's set to be located at the heart of the newsroom like BBC World's, of course it is now.

I would if I could but the archive doesn't work. Razz
DV
DVB Cornwall
Absolutely loved the introduction just given by Joanna Gosling for the Lembit/Cheeky story, she just kept herself from laughing. She almost lost it at the end of the story too.

Can't wait for Storyfix this week coverage of the story.
MC
mccanmat
Anybody wish to suggest which hardly seen presenters may be on News 24 over The next week or so...?
DU
Dunedin
mccanmat posted:
Anybody wish to suggest which hardly seen presenters may be on News 24 over The next week or so...?


Long live the presentation thread!

Down with the rotas!

Repeat it with me now:

Long live the presentation thread!

Down with the rotas!
PR
Primetime
Dunedin posted:
mccanmat posted:
Anybody wish to suggest which hardly seen presenters may be on News 24 over The next week or so...?


Long live the presentation thread!

Down with the rotas!

Repeat it with me now:

Long live the presentation thread!

Down with the rotas!


Razz
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
News 24 is opting out of the National 10 o'clock news this evening, not too sure if this has happened recently.

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