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AN
all new Phil
I ain't really a big fan of the channel, as I tend to make clear from time to time, but I tuned in before and I was very impressed with Rachel Schofield, she was really good. Definitely deserving of a bigger profile - what's her background with news? Never seen her elsewhere.
LO
Londoner
She's married to Jeremy Vine.
SN
The SNT Three
all new Phil posted:
I ain't really a big fan of the channel, as I tend to make clear from time to time, but I tuned in before and I was very impressed with Rachel Schofield, she was really good. Definitely deserving of a bigger profile - what's her background with news? Never seen her elsewhere.


I don't really like her. She's OK, but lacks apparent personality.
AN
all new Phil
alexcs19 posted:
I don't really like her. She's OK, but lacks apparent personality.

In my eyes she has more personality than the rest of N24's presenters put together. Great delivery, confident... ideal for Sky News then really!
NE
newsjunkie Founding member
God, I thought I recognised her. I served her when I used to work at Little Chef. She was really nice and she actually started a conversation about Top-Up Fees. Very talkative and knowledgable. I thought she was just Jeremy Vines bird, and didn't realise she had a news background!!

Huh, shows what I know.
MO
Moz
all new Phil posted:
alexcs19 posted:
I don't really like her. She's OK, but lacks apparent personality.

In my eyes she has more personality than the rest of N24's presenters put together. Great delivery, confident... ideal for Sky News then really!

Yeah, Sky News loves it's 'personalities' doesn't it! Like James Rubin, Eamon Holmes... they've done it's ratings no end of good!!! Laughing
CM
Col Mustard
Moz posted:
Hymagumba posted:
Moz posted:
Why does it look ridiculous?

The quality of picture is far far better. A novel idea broadcasting from a studio rather than a corridor, and it shows. Rather than the dreary, badly lit picture you usually get from N8, this looks far better. It's also better with the video wall rather than the usual washed out mini-screens.


yes, but the set is the oversized background isn't it. It's all very well broadcasting from a real studio (which I agree looks vastly better), but why put a bizzare paint recreation of the old set as the background?

They should have used either the old N6 background, or the cityscape.

I agree with the cameras though, much much better and none of that wierd greenshift we get from N8 either.


If they'd worked on it a bit more, and maybe got a "live" picture of the newsroom behind N8 like this...

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/n8.jpg

...without the frosting, then it would have been better. The problem they has was with the corners. Instead of making it look like the newroom wrapped around the walls, they should have designed it so it looked like the newsroom was entirely behind the back wall. Like this...

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/newsroom_copy1.gif


Interesting thought, and would look fantastic, but impossible to achieve with the current technology.
In order to acheive the look you're after, where the bg appears to continue, rather than wrap, you'd have to 'cheat' the perspective of the shot taken to fill the right hand screens, so that when it was placed in the flat screens in the studio, it would fit. The problem is, you can only do this from one camera angle and it wouldn't look right when you changed shots to, say for example the sportsday position, standing flat on at the right hand bank of screens.

The problem is, none of this is virtual, like ITN and cant be tracked to the cameras.
Though, who knows what we'll see one 24 introduce Viz?
MO
Moz
Col Mustard posted:
Interesting thought, and would look fantastic, but impossible to achieve with the current technology.
In order to acheive the look you're after, where the bg appears to continue, rather than wrap, you'd have to 'cheat' the perspective of the shot taken to fill the right hand screens, so that when it was placed in the flat screens in the studio, it would fit. The problem is, you can only do this from one camera angle and it wouldn't look right when you changed shots to, say for example the sportsday position, standing flat on at the right hand bank of screens.

The problem is, none of this is virtual, like ITN and cant be tracked to the cameras.
Though, who knows what we'll see one 24 introduce Viz?

Thank God someone understood what I meant!

I see what you mean Col Mustard, didn't really think it through properly - but it would look good wouldn't it!?

What's Viz?
SP
Spencer
Moz posted:
What's Viz?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who was puzzled by this... unless Roger Mellie and the Fat Slags are joining the presenting line-up.
LO
Londoner
Moz posted:
What's Viz?

http://www.vizrt.com
CM
Col Mustard
Thank God someone understood what I meant!

I see what you mean Col Mustard, didn't really think it through properly - but it would look good wouldn't it!?

What's Viz?[/quote]

gfx playout and generation system used by ITV and Sky, equivalent to BBC's TOG.
Also what runs parts of ITN virtual set. And your right, it would solve all the things people don't like about N6, (though people still have complaints about ITN's set, so you can't please everyone. Smile
MO
Moz
Col Mustard posted:
Moz posted:
Thank God someone understood what I meant!

I see what you mean Col Mustard, didn't really think it through properly - but it would look good wouldn't it!?

What's Viz?


gfx playout and generation system used by ITV and Sky, equivalent to BBC's TOG.
Also what runs parts of ITN virtual set. And your right, it would solve all the things people don't like about N6, (though people still have complaints about ITN's set, so you can't please everyone. Smile

Thanks. So I take it we may see a different (or at least tweeks) to N6's background when it's installed. How long before they get it?

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