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The Mass has hit the fan, so to speak. I'd seen BBC Worlds and News 24's graphic collide recently, the world one's seem to be slightly lower on the screen, possibly thanks to the tapering and now both sets don't aline. Brilliant.
Haven't a clue, and seemingly neither do N24, what's happening with the web address, I can see that redirection to BBC News provides a more aligned and synrodised approach but I was under the impression that all BBC Channels had a website. Like others have said it was a good mix of promotion and information as well as news and current affairs. Who knows. Maybe it's just being changed...
Haven't a clue, and seemingly neither do N24, what's happening with the web address, I can see that redirection to BBC News provides a more aligned and synrodised approach but I was under the impression that all BBC Channels had a website. Like others have said it was a good mix of promotion and information as well as news and current affairs. Who knows. Maybe it's just being changed...
SP
I noticed another minor modification to the News 24 graphics this morning which (to my knowledge), hasn't been mentioned yet.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
MO
That's been there since they got rid of the bold astons and changed the Tower - about 2 weeks now?
Spencer For Hire posted:
I noticed another minor modification to the News 24 graphics this morning which (to my knowledge), hasn't been mentioned yet.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
That's been there since they got rid of the bold astons and changed the Tower - about 2 weeks now?
DO
Live in the real world.
People in the regions get piissed on most of the time by the nationals, and really could hardly care less if a report they've made for their OWN programme upsets the ticker on News 24.
And if you're using a freelance graphic operator, because your budget has been slashed by 15%, and you've had to get rid of your full time graphics people, then the freelance is hardly gonna know, or care, about Towers, or tickers, or News 24...freelancers care about their next booking.
Please don't talk to me like I'm a fùckìng child. I made a valid point, and certainly a valid observation on a forum dedicated to the discussion of such things, and if that upsets or irritates you, then kindly fùck off and take your attitude with you.
If management make a statement saying that they are making a commitment to ensuring that graphics from nations and regions fit with the N24 furniture, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some demonstrable action in that direction.
And please don't lecture me on living in the real world. Judging by your naive comments, you clearly have no concept of what freelance hiring entails. A freelancer is entirely at the mercy of those who are using their service; not the other way around. While it may be true to say that the freelancer's main concern is their next booking, any responsible hirer of a freelancer would ensure that the job is done satisfactorily, and that the requirements of the work are explained before work on the job in hand commences.
So while I will accept that regions may well be disillusioned and frustrated with no longer having dedicated graphics professionals and having to use freelancers for such tasks, I'm afraid there is no substance to your implication that it's such a massive effort to sufficiently enthuse a freelancer to give a toss about N24 graphics compatibility. The beauty of getting freelancers in is that you don't have to bother enthusing them or motivating them or getting them to care about your organisation's relationship with head office - you give them a task, you tell them what you need them to do, they do it, you pay them, they bùgger off. Simple as that. For goodness' sake, all the nations/regions have to do is present a piece of paper with N24 graphic-safe areas to the freelancer; I don't understand why this is such an unreasonable thing to expect, nor why I should therefore be berated for living in some kind of ridiculous fantasy for expecting such a thing.
If managers or editors in the regions and nations are unable to sufficiently brief a freelancer on their work beforehand, supposedly as a result of indifference towards head office requirements for compatibility with other channels, then as much as I sympathise with their irritation for budget cuts - and make no mistake, I do - I would question the professionalism of those individuals if they are unable or unwilling to do a complete and proper job as some kind of juvenile silent protest against management.
What a dream world you live in...
BBC LDN posted:
Dog posted:
BBC LDN posted:
For the love of God... News 24 Tonight has been going on for ages now. I seem to remember some press release flying out of someone's ass a while back claiming that a priority in the BBC's affirmation that N24 is central to BBC News would be to ensure that graphics and features from the nations and regions would "fit" with those on N24 as part of the integration strategy, and the commitment to better use of resources outside of London. Yet every day on N24 Tonight, I watch as during report after report, the Tower and ticker have to be taken off because graphics from the nations and regions fail to take into account the N24 furniture.
Can it really be so hard to issue a memo to all the centres pointing out that the bottom eighth and lower-left twelfth of the screen should not feature important text or images? Ooh, it gets my goat, it does.
Can it really be so hard to issue a memo to all the centres pointing out that the bottom eighth and lower-left twelfth of the screen should not feature important text or images? Ooh, it gets my goat, it does.
Live in the real world.
People in the regions get piissed on most of the time by the nationals, and really could hardly care less if a report they've made for their OWN programme upsets the ticker on News 24.
And if you're using a freelance graphic operator, because your budget has been slashed by 15%, and you've had to get rid of your full time graphics people, then the freelance is hardly gonna know, or care, about Towers, or tickers, or News 24...freelancers care about their next booking.
Please don't talk to me like I'm a fùckìng child. I made a valid point, and certainly a valid observation on a forum dedicated to the discussion of such things, and if that upsets or irritates you, then kindly fùck off and take your attitude with you.
If management make a statement saying that they are making a commitment to ensuring that graphics from nations and regions fit with the N24 furniture, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some demonstrable action in that direction.
And please don't lecture me on living in the real world. Judging by your naive comments, you clearly have no concept of what freelance hiring entails. A freelancer is entirely at the mercy of those who are using their service; not the other way around. While it may be true to say that the freelancer's main concern is their next booking, any responsible hirer of a freelancer would ensure that the job is done satisfactorily, and that the requirements of the work are explained before work on the job in hand commences.
So while I will accept that regions may well be disillusioned and frustrated with no longer having dedicated graphics professionals and having to use freelancers for such tasks, I'm afraid there is no substance to your implication that it's such a massive effort to sufficiently enthuse a freelancer to give a toss about N24 graphics compatibility. The beauty of getting freelancers in is that you don't have to bother enthusing them or motivating them or getting them to care about your organisation's relationship with head office - you give them a task, you tell them what you need them to do, they do it, you pay them, they bùgger off. Simple as that. For goodness' sake, all the nations/regions have to do is present a piece of paper with N24 graphic-safe areas to the freelancer; I don't understand why this is such an unreasonable thing to expect, nor why I should therefore be berated for living in some kind of ridiculous fantasy for expecting such a thing.
If managers or editors in the regions and nations are unable to sufficiently brief a freelancer on their work beforehand, supposedly as a result of indifference towards head office requirements for compatibility with other channels, then as much as I sympathise with their irritation for budget cuts - and make no mistake, I do - I would question the professionalism of those individuals if they are unable or unwilling to do a complete and proper job as some kind of juvenile silent protest against management.
What a dream world you live in...
SP
That's been there since they got rid of the bold astons and changed the Tower - about 2 weeks now?
I thought it probably had, but I'd not seen any mention of it on here.
Moz posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
I noticed another minor modification to the News 24 graphics this morning which (to my knowledge), hasn't been mentioned yet.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
The telephone graphic has been updated. Instead of the elliptical white 'phone buttons', they're now rectangular and closer together making it look like the keypad from a current mobile phone instead of something from about five years ago. It was heavily in use this morning whilst they were talking to friends and relatives of Norman Kember. Not earth-shattering, but a slight improvement IMO.
That's been there since they got rid of the bold astons and changed the Tower - about 2 weeks now?
I thought it probably had, but I'd not seen any mention of it on here.