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MO
Moz
DAS posted:
TOG is highly customisable, and was developed with the BBC. If anything, TOG is software that doesn't NEED people to come in and play about with it - especially when the BBC have enough people that could do it themselves.

Why don't they fix so many of it's bugs then? Like adding something that stops them being able to type more than there's room for, or getting the big aston text to autoshrink if it won't fit? And what about getting TOG to do something to replace that awful "Coming Up" graphic with the scrolling "bbc.co.uk/news" in the black bit?

When I contacted the last Controller of News 24 (or whatever the appointment was then) to comment on the rubbish LIVE/location graphic, he admitted it was poor but said that the graphics system was very complicated and changes were very difficult to make.
DA
DAS Founding member
Moz posted:
DAS posted:
TOG is highly customisable, and was developed with the BBC. If anything, TOG is software that doesn't NEED people to come in and play about with it - especially when the BBC have enough people that could do it themselves.

Why don't they fix so many of it's bugs then? Like adding something that stops them being able to type more than there's room for, or getting the big aston text to autoshrink if it won't fit? And what about getting TOG to do something to replace that awful "Coming Up" graphic with the scrolling "bbc.co.uk/news" in the black bit?


Who knows! As I say, I never claim to be an expert but my educated guess would be that such problems are seen not as trivial, but too small to assign a job to. From the outside, you'd think there would be at least someone who could sit down, take a look at the niggles and get rid of them. But as we all know, from the inside it isn't always so simple. Perhaps the benefits that people here would like to see are outweighed by the cost of assigning someone or bringing someone in to do it? Maybe it requires testing that wouldn't be feasible in that environment? Perhaps it's a fault with that particular version of software and it would cost an unjustifiable amount of money to upgrade? No idea.

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When I contacted the last Controller of News 24 (or whatever the appointment was then) to comment on the rubbish LIVE/location graphic, he admitted it was poor but said that the graphics system was very complicated and changes were very difficult to make.


But then again, bull---- baffles brains as they say. He probably doesn't have a clue himself!

I suggest it is more economical - terms of time, money and technology - to make changes in bulk rather than do little bits like that whenever someone says "oooooh, we should make that red darker". And you know what the BBC is like - you would probably require a report and presentation, authorisation, assessments, reviews, re-reviews, reassessments and re-re-reviews.
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BBC LDN
I noticed this evening that "RTS News Channel Of The Year" now features on the News 24 Tonight titles as well - I don't recall seeing that during the last week.
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baoren
Anyone can post a capture of it? thanks!
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NickyS Founding member
johnnybegood posted:
Does anyone know when the new changes will commence?

Yes Laughing
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r2ro
NickyS posted:
johnnybegood posted:
Does anyone know when the new changes will commence?

Yes Laughing

And mind sharing them with the forum.
PH
phil-g
The football on BBC One is definitely going to overun, they are playing 4 minutes of added time. What are news 24 going to do, will they fill for a few minutes?
PH
phil-g
They are running their own bulletin, double headed from the news 24 studios, I would imagine they will stay on their own, rather than crashing into the Ten when it starts. Shows how stupid it is to try to fit a football match into 2 hours and five mins of coverage, but that iargument s for another day...
DV
DVB Cornwall
In Angry Old Man Mode ----

DROP THE SIMULCAST!

(Permanently)

Razz
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Ronant
phil-g posted:
They are running their own bulletin, double headed from the news 24 studios, I would imagine they will stay on their own, rather than crashing into the Ten when it starts. Shows how stupid it is to try to fit a football match into 2 hours and five mins of coverage, but that iargument s for another day...


Who was presenting that then?
MO
Moz
DVB Cornwall posted:
In Angry Old Man Mode ----

DROP THE SIMULCAST!

(Permanently)

Razz

I think it's fine with exception. It just doesn't feel right split across two studios. I think Huw should do the Ten from N8 and at the end have a chat, or at least introduce Peter (to become Chris) sitting next to him.

The only problem with this would be where would they do breaking news from if anything happened in the middle of the Ten. The obvious answer would be N6 - this must be suitable as they used it when N8 had comms problems the other week. How long would it take the presenter to get from N6 to N8 at 10.30?
PE
Pete Founding member
Maybe if we made a list of all the bugs with TOG and presented it to the BBC in a big "we'll burn our licence fees" type demo outside TV Centre they'd get someone in to fix it.

Plus it would be an excuse for me to visit London which I've never done.

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