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noggin posted:
If you're asking if Jon has any political background - then he was News 24's Chief Pol Corr for a while, I think he took over from Nick Robinson, who in turn had taken over from Huw Edwards in that role. Jon was a Pol Corr prior to moving over to presenting - he presented the 2001 Election coverage for the One, so is pretty well qualified to anchor a political story as he has the background.


I feel slightly reluctant to offer a mild correction to a post by the estimable Noggin, but my commitment to accuracy compels me....

Jon was a general BBC Political Correspondent for years - I think early 90's until about 2000. Then he went to be Paris correspondent (covering Concorde, and an away trip to Afghanistan) until about 2003. He did come back to do the 2001 election. From 2003 onwards he's been doing News24, and now does the Politics Show on Sunday. So he's about as well qualified as it gets to be outside the palace of Westminster.

News 24 Chief Political Correspondents from the start - Huw Edwards, Nick Robinson, Guto Harri and now James LANDALE (not Langdale). Huw left in (I think) 1999 to do the Six, Nick left in Autumn 2002 to go to ITN, and Guto left in 2004 to go to Rome, and now he's in New York.
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Isn't it true that one of Jon Sopel's first news bulletins was Breakfast during either February Half Term or Easter 2003? I remember he presented for a week instead of Dermot during a school holiday in 2003.
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r2ro posted:
Isn't it true that one of Jon Sopel's first news bulletins was Breakfast during either February Half Term or Easter 2003? I remember he presented for a week instead of Dermot during a school holiday in 2003.


Erm, no. He presented during the vitual era Six and IIRC the One - he also did bits of Breakfast News from 97 on - although he may have done virtual Breakfast News as well - not sure on that one.
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harshy Founding member
noggin posted:
harshy posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
WBR tonight - second part News24 Tower not on. Still showing the recorded BBC World Tower (and no clock either)


I thought News 24 took a clean copy, clearly that can't be the case then.


News 24 and World shows can no longer be recorded without the Dog+Clock (i.e. the tower) but with name supers - as they come from the same source. You can only mask the tower if you want to record the studio output with name supers etc.
You mean the name supers is part of the TOG system hence the BBC World DOG
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thegeek Founding member
harshy posted:
noggin posted:
harshy posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
WBR tonight - second part News24 Tower not on. Still showing the recorded BBC World Tower (and no clock either)


I thought News 24 took a clean copy, clearly that can't be the case then.


News 24 and World shows can no longer be recorded without the Dog+Clock (i.e. the tower) but with name supers - as they come from the same source. You can only mask the tower if you want to record the studio output with name supers etc.
You mean the name supers is part of the TOG system hence the BBC World DOG
Feeds with supers and without DOGs do occasionally pop up, AFAIK. I think this is the case with Dateline London, but I'm not sure if it can work the other way around.
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rob Founding member
Carol Kirkwood's mic fell off during the 8.15 weather bulletin. Couldn't capture the moment I'm afraid.
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Matrix
In terms of News 24's responce to the New Sky News I've been quite impressed that they haven't had a knee-jerk reaction to it.

I've just seen an "in-depth" report, lasting about 25minutes and to be honest to worked quite well having this exclusive devotion to a story and hope it can become a regular thing for "slow" news days, although a would question its suitability in a general day-to-day news channel, hence some of my "questions" around Sky News.

Also, News 24 now seem to be using the "on the ground" correspondent of the top story to cover the top story in the headlines before the studio hands back for the rest. Personally I think it works really well, it was most commonly shown during the Asian Tsunami as Specials, but it seems to be becoming more common, such as Jon Sopel from College Green on Blunkett and Someone for the Fox Hunting in the countryside. If this is the shape of things to come then I'm certainly impressed.
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You say you're impressed they've not had a knee-jerk reaction to it, then go on to list how they've changed since the Sky revamp.

Bit of a contradiction there, no?
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cat posted:
You say you're impressed they've not had a knee-jerk reaction to it, then go on to list how they've changed since the Sky revamp.

Bit of a contradiction there, no?


Umm, I can see your point, but I wouldn't class that as Knee-jerk, I was implying some set/graphical redesign or a steadicam joining the crew...

Sorry for the confusion.
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Matrix posted:
News 24 now seem to be using the "on the ground" correspondent of the top story to cover the top story in the headlines before the studio hands back for the rest. Personally I think it works really well, it was most commonly shown during the Asian Tsunami as Specials, but it seems to be becoming more common, such as Jon Sopel from College Green on Blunkett and Someone for the Fox Hunting in the countryside. If this is the shape of things to come then I'm certainly impressed.

Hmmm. Watched last night at 6 when Jon was in Paris for a BBC News Special at the TOTH. That's fine, but after the titles they went to the studio for a few sentences by the Julian & Louise before handing straight back over to Jon again. I presume this was because World were taking longer with their headlines and News 24 had to fill, but it looked messy.
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Moz posted:
Hmmm. Watched last night at 6 when Jon was in Paris for a BBC News Special at the TOTH. That's fine, but after the titles they went to the studio for a few sentences by the Julian & Louise before handing straight back over to Jon again. I presume this was because World were taking longer with their headlines and News 24 had to fill, but it looked messy.


That's the reason - there's usually an opt-in time agreed between World and N24. It's very difficult to time a headline sequence exactly, so there's normally a bit of filler. It can look a bit messy though...... and then there's the pause on the handback before the studio shot is cut up, to let the "opting-in" gallery get out cleanly.
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Word from TV Centre is that there'll be a big announcement this afternoon about the future shape and direction of BBC TV News. I'd guess it'll be more about internal structures and systems rather than immediate on-screen changes, but it'll be interesting nonetheless. Broadcast magazine last week were reporting that just about all BBC news pieces will be made for News24, with the One, Six and Ten being able to re-edit some of the pieces for their own needs. There'll probably be other elements too. MediaGuardian and the BBC Press Office are probably the places to watch.

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