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A question that's always bothered me... (August 2013)

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NG
noggin Founding member
bilky asko posted:
Moz posted:
The skeuomorphism on the second is just poor (as Apple have now realised).

It's not skeuomorphism - it is mimesis, as the graphic is intended to look as if it were part of the set (and not just realistic). It's not a real display with plastic poles made to look metal (which would be skeuomorphic), nor is it a software's GUI trying to mimic the physical version of itself (which would be the modern definition of skeuomorphic).

I remember at the time thinking that it looked rather good - it wasn't obviously fake.


Quite a lot of the graphic inset was made from real screen grabs ISTR - so it was generated from bits of the set rather than being artificially generated.
BA
bilky asko
noggin posted:
bilky asko posted:
Moz posted:
The skeuomorphism on the second is just poor (as Apple have now realised).

It's not skeuomorphism - it is mimesis, as the graphic is intended to look as if it were part of the set (and not just realistic). It's not a real display with plastic poles made to look metal (which would be skeuomorphic), nor is it a software's GUI trying to mimic the physical version of itself (which would be the modern definition of skeuomorphic).

I remember at the time thinking that it looked rather good - it wasn't obviously fake.


Quite a lot of the graphic inset was made from real screen grabs ISTR - so it was generated from bits of the set rather than being artificially generated.

That would explain the quality of it - it always seemed impressive to me at the time (moreso than the 2004 ITV Theatre of News did at the time).
SE
seamus
I honestly think that the 2002 updated set with the added red is one of the best sets BBC News has ever had. It conveying a sense of warm gravitas that I think was lost with the introduction of the awful 2003 sets and hasn't quite been recaptured at NBH.

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/news/bbcnews/images/evening/1999/bbc6news_huw_edwards_2002c.jpg

Honestly I think it'd be pretty presentable even today
BA
Bail Moderator
I agree with you there, that colour scheme cream/red still says BBC News to me, the set(s) that follows this with the horrid mirrored washed out back projection thing and to some extend the barco sets never felt as good as this one. That said the current studio/set is very good and the use of red at NBH (and even blue for the 10) works very well.

As an aside, did the newsroom (at TVC, the real one) ever have those down-lighters shown in the still above? I know the red was added in after the TVC bomb and they stopped using the live(delayed) feed for a looped record so I'm guessing these have been added in, but I'm curious.
NG
noggin Founding member
I think the whole background was pre-recorded and artworked then (to make it look nicer than reality) - not live.

The same mirrored back-projection technique was used as the following set I think, but with three projectors rather than two.
ST
Stuart
I never thought of that insert as something that was supposed to go to the edge of the screen. More just an evolution of the oblong graphic from the VR era:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2woxjbr.jpg

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