BR
A couple more comments to add:
Firstly, at last the daytime summaries are back in line with the generic look. No titles - just a shot of the studio, but the orange strap has now turned corporate red - while there is a shot of the globe in the (bit too long) flash between each story.
Another point - I notice on the Breakfast titles they do have "BBC News" scrolling in them - note "BBC News" and not "BBC NEWS" as on the main news programmes.
Firstly, at last the daytime summaries are back in line with the generic look. No titles - just a shot of the studio, but the orange strap has now turned corporate red - while there is a shot of the globe in the (bit too long) flash between each story.
Another point - I notice on the Breakfast titles they do have "BBC News" scrolling in them - note "BBC News" and not "BBC NEWS" as on the main news programmes.
DE
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
Joe Havard posted:
I've been meaning to ask this for quite a while now. Everytime I watch the BBC News on analogue, when the national titles begin after the regional headlines, there's a green blip on the screen which lasts for about half a second. Does anyone know what this is, because it happens every time on analogue and it really p***** me off.
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
R2
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
I always wonder is why they don't opt back at a time when there won't be much disruption caused, like after the titles have finished and not in the middle?
denton posted:
Joe Havard posted:
I've been meaning to ask this for quite a while now. Everytime I watch the BBC News on analogue, when the national titles begin after the regional headlines, there's a green blip on the screen which lasts for about half a second. Does anyone know what this is, because it happens every time on analogue and it really p***** me off.
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
I always wonder is why they don't opt back at a time when there won't be much disruption caused, like after the titles have finished and not in the middle?
WE
Here's a few questions regarding this aspect ratio thing.
How come when GMTV swopped to widescreen, regional news was still able to broadcast in 4:3 anyway until recently?
How come BBC regional news had to broadcast 14:9, when ITV during GMTV could get away with it?
A hypothetical question, normally 4:3 comedies(OFAH, Open All Hours etc) are still shown 4:3 as they are networked.
If a BBC regional centre rescreened a complete 4:3 prog locally, would it go out as 4:3, or would it go out as 14:9?
How come when GMTV swopped to widescreen, regional news was still able to broadcast in 4:3 anyway until recently?
How come BBC regional news had to broadcast 14:9, when ITV during GMTV could get away with it?
A hypothetical question, normally 4:3 comedies(OFAH, Open All Hours etc) are still shown 4:3 as they are networked.
If a BBC regional centre rescreened a complete 4:3 prog locally, would it go out as 4:3, or would it go out as 14:9?
NE
I'd have thought they's swap each evening like Sian and Dermot now do on Breakfast.
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but has anyone noticed that Tash is now a lefty while George has gone right wing.
This reminds me of America, where the woman sits on the left and the man sits on the right.
This reminds me of America, where the woman sits on the left and the man sits on the right.
I'd have thought they's swap each evening like Sian and Dermot now do on Breakfast.
MA
I'd have thought they's swap each evening like Sian and Dermot now do on Breakfast.
Oh, for a minute I thought we were talking political persuasion and that, on the BBC, would have been, to say the least, interesting.
I thought there was an alternative swap everyday, like Breakfast with Sian and Dermot taking it in turns as Lead and Secondary presenters.
Newsreader posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but has anyone noticed that Tash is now a lefty while George has gone right wing.
This reminds me of America, where the woman sits on the left and the man sits on the right.
This reminds me of America, where the woman sits on the left and the man sits on the right.
I'd have thought they's swap each evening like Sian and Dermot now do on Breakfast.
Oh, for a minute I thought we were talking political persuasion and that, on the BBC, would have been, to say the least, interesting.
I thought there was an alternative swap everyday, like Breakfast with Sian and Dermot taking it in turns as Lead and Secondary presenters.
NG
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
I always wonder is why they don't opt back at a time when there won't be much disruption caused, like after the titles have finished and not in the middle?
The digital opt-back is automatic - it happens when they cut back to network on the local vision mixer. The analogue soft opt-back happens at the same time, but the hard opt-back (when the analogue network feed is no longer passing through the local gallery) can happen whenever the TM or Director (whoever has opt-control) decides. I know many people who waited until after titles music as the NICAM splat (caused by a Sound In Syncs disturbance usually) was noticable on music more than speech or silence.
noggin
Founding member
r2ro posted:
denton posted:
Joe Havard posted:
I've been meaning to ask this for quite a while now. Everytime I watch the BBC News on analogue, when the national titles begin after the regional headlines, there's a green blip on the screen which lasts for about half a second. Does anyone know what this is, because it happens every time on analogue and it really p***** me off.
From what you describe, it would think the 'blip' you see on screen is caused by your region opting back to network (i.e. the mixing desk being taken 'out of circuit').
A likely scenario is:
that the version of Network Output which is going through your region's vision mixing desk is syncronised with the output of the studio cameras, etc...
the version of Network Output which they then switch to, during the network news titles (taking their vision mixing desk out of circuit), is not syncronised.
The 'blip' you see is the visual disturbance caused by switching between two different versions of Network, which are not in-sync with each other.
I always wonder is why they don't opt back at a time when there won't be much disruption caused, like after the titles have finished and not in the middle?
The digital opt-back is automatic - it happens when they cut back to network on the local vision mixer. The analogue soft opt-back happens at the same time, but the hard opt-back (when the analogue network feed is no longer passing through the local gallery) can happen whenever the TM or Director (whoever has opt-control) decides. I know many people who waited until after titles music as the NICAM splat (caused by a Sound In Syncs disturbance usually) was noticable on music more than speech or silence.