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RK
Rkolsen
TVNewsviewer posted:
m7891 posted:
And Rico Hizon knows he's going out in the UK an hour early.


Just like Huw Edwards knew he was on air (on the News Channel) even though at least a couple of the tabloids claim he wasn't. Not sure about Rico as he seemed to get his time mixed up barely 24 hours before - when the News Channel joined on Monday night, he said it was 8 o'clock in Singapore when on-screen said it was 7 o'clock (I concluded the on-screen time was the correct one).


I'm a bit surprised that Huw didn't atleast look up the entire time. I imagine he saw himself in the preview monitor in the desk or prompter.

Did anyone else notice the staff running into the gallery about halfway through? Did they get through the show with someone manually controlling the switcher, audio board and the rest? I feel sorry for whoever coded the show.
BB
BBI45
I think I may have found a curse!

MarkT76, Larry the Loafer and Rkolsen gave kudos
IS
Inspector Sands
Rkolsen posted:

Did anyone else notice the staff running into the gallery about halfway through? Did they get through the show with someone manually controlling the switcher, audio board and the rest?

Yes apparently both main and reserve automation dies and they had to do things manually
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I feel sorry for whoever coded the show.

Eh?
RK
Rkolsen
Inspector Sands posted:
Rkolsen posted:

Did anyone else notice the staff running into the gallery about halfway through? Did they get through the show with someone manually controlling the switcher, audio board and the rest?

Yes apparently both main and reserve automation dies and they had to do things manually
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I feel sorry for whoever coded the show.

Eh?

Coding the automation/mosart - assuming there was a mistake that caused the massive failure.
IS
Inspector Sands
Rkolsen posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Rkolsen posted:
I feel sorry for whoever coded the show.

Eh?

Coding the automation/mosart - assuming there was a mistake that caused the massive failure.

Nobody 'codes' it as such, the commands will be standard ones inserted into the running order by the production team and gallery.

But yeah if the main and reserve both had issues the presence of a rogue command or a mistake in one would make sense. If so it's likely just one of those odd quirks that no one's ever discovered before and done quite innocently by someone
IS
Inspector Sands
Andrew posted:
Did all the region's just stay on the ident forever and just see a brief second of Huw before the menu appeared? I thought it was my region who had an issue at first and were unable to opt back in.

Sounds like whoever was in Hull was on the ball and presumably hearing what was going on on the network talkback. As you say I wonder if everyone did that or whether they just did the usual and opted back at 10
MA
mapperuo
A 4 minute delay in getting backup systems working seems quite long. Could they have used the vision mixer and had Huw just read immediately? but maybe wanted graphics back so tried a reboot?
DO
dosxuk
TVNewsviewer posted:
RDJ posted:
Well Newsday is on an hour early!

I guess that's the end of the News Channel output for the rest of the night now! It seems like these are quite bad technical problems!


It's not, as Babita is doing a special News Channel programme. I suspect Clive could have moved to the World studio and presented the half hour but it was probably just easier to stick with Babita.


The UK-only bits of overnights are produced by the World team from their gallery. World itself opts in/out the studio output at the relevant times. None of the News Channel resources are needed or used.
DO
dosxuk
Apparently iPlayer has it's own continuity nowadays...

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Viewers on BBC One were played saxophone music for part of the delay, while on iPlayer an announcer apologised for the glitch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40350006
RK
Rkolsen
Inspector Sands posted:
Rkolsen posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Eh?

Coding the automation/mosart - assuming there was a mistake that caused the massive failure.

Nobody 'codes' it as such, the commands will be standard ones inserted into the running order by the production team and gallery.

But yeah if the main and reserve both had issues the presence of a rogue command or a mistake in one would make sense. If so it's likely just one of those odd quirks that no one's ever discovered before and done quite innocently by someone


Sounds like a difference in terminology in the US a director would be coding the show's rundown.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The whole point of the automation is that you don't need so many people in the gallery, so it's less likely that there would be people around to run it manually, although I think the network bulletins have higher staffing than the News Channel.

However there is a control panel known as the bash box which I believe can run certain macros in Mosart, to allow for things that can't be scripted like cutting between cameras in an interview.




If the full automation had gone down I wonder if the director was running everything manually from here rather than just hitting take next for everything?
IS
Inspector Sands
mapperuo posted:
A 4 minute delay in getting backup systems working seems quite long.

Depends what the backup they used was. If they had to do everything manually then getting everything organised and everyone in place in 4 mins is good going

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Could they have used the vision mixer and had Huw just read immediately?

Read what, links into reports and headlines that they can't play?

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