DO
Or, more likely, make arrangements to borrow the broken bit of equipment, work into a different gallery / apparatus room (do the TVC mainblock studios have that facility?), hire a replacement of the broken equipment, hire an OB truck or (last resort) move studios. With nearly 12 hours notice there are loads of options available which the majority of viewers wouldn't notice.
I'm sure if it had looked like there would have been a problem last night they would been able to find some sort of filler programme to fill around 15 minutes.
Or, more likely, make arrangements to borrow the broken bit of equipment, work into a different gallery / apparatus room (do the TVC mainblock studios have that facility?), hire a replacement of the broken equipment, hire an OB truck or (last resort) move studios. With nearly 12 hours notice there are loads of options available which the majority of viewers wouldn't notice.
HO
Was it not the weekend edition axed, or have both been? They (confusingly) use the "E24" brand for both the weeknight updates and the weekend editions.
I thought E24 had been axed? At least, it seemed to be the last edition ever that I watched on the BBC News website at the weekend...
Was it not the weekend edition axed, or have both been? They (confusingly) use the "E24" brand for both the weeknight updates and the weekend editions.
JW
I think the Ten could do with a major revamp to make it more of a flagship bulletin and less generic that all other output. Just saw it last night for the first time in many years. I guess I would also like to see it being presented by two newsreaders instead of one, and why not go for a lot of live interviews???? (Like people who queue up to appear on Breakfast, let's get the politicos and "connectors" on the Ten).
Anchors? Alagiah, Badawi and Raworth on double headed rotation.
Anchors? Alagiah, Badawi and Raworth on double headed rotation.
HO
Live interviews doesn't really work on such a confined bulletin - Breakfast is on for three and a quarter hours ever weekday, so if they go over the allocated time by a minute or two it's fairly easy to make up time again. Same is true for the News Channel.
What they need is more exclusives - I'd like Huw to leave the News Channel (keep the Five O'Clock Hour - for cost-saving reasons I'd put the News at One presenter on it, seeing as Sophie is more than able to present both the One and the Six), and instead have Huw conducting exclusive interviews to be first aired on that night's Ten. These days many of the reports you see on the Ten are the same or very similar packages to what the Six and News Channel aired earlier, just re-ordered slightly.
And in regards to presenters, I see no reason to change Huw or Fiona. What I am worried about is the One, which Sophie seems to miss regularly to cover other bulletins (something you didn't get when she first took it or when Anna presented) and the general format.
I also think the present N6 look appears incredibly shabby for the One, Six and Ten, as would N8. Being in TC1 proved that - and not because of the size, but because Huw could get up, walk across, present while data appeared behind him and he was sat in the middle of the desk, rather than to one side next to empty chairs. The irony is you didn't have this problem until the NC moved in and they relaunched - the Six, for example, regularly had a "Special Report" from the standing corner of the studio.
I think the Ten could do with a major revamp to make it more of a flagship bulletin and less generic that all other output. Just saw it last night for the first time in many years. I guess I would also like to see it being presented by two newsreaders instead of one, and why not go for a lot of live interviews???? (Like people who queue up to appear on Breakfast, let's get the politicos and "connectors" on the Ten).
Anchors? Alagiah, Badawi and Raworth on double headed rotation.
Anchors? Alagiah, Badawi and Raworth on double headed rotation.
Live interviews doesn't really work on such a confined bulletin - Breakfast is on for three and a quarter hours ever weekday, so if they go over the allocated time by a minute or two it's fairly easy to make up time again. Same is true for the News Channel.
What they need is more exclusives - I'd like Huw to leave the News Channel (keep the Five O'Clock Hour - for cost-saving reasons I'd put the News at One presenter on it, seeing as Sophie is more than able to present both the One and the Six), and instead have Huw conducting exclusive interviews to be first aired on that night's Ten. These days many of the reports you see on the Ten are the same or very similar packages to what the Six and News Channel aired earlier, just re-ordered slightly.
And in regards to presenters, I see no reason to change Huw or Fiona. What I am worried about is the One, which Sophie seems to miss regularly to cover other bulletins (something you didn't get when she first took it or when Anna presented) and the general format.
I also think the present N6 look appears incredibly shabby for the One, Six and Ten, as would N8. Being in TC1 proved that - and not because of the size, but because Huw could get up, walk across, present while data appeared behind him and he was sat in the middle of the desk, rather than to one side next to empty chairs. The irony is you didn't have this problem until the NC moved in and they relaunched - the Six, for example, regularly had a "Special Report" from the standing corner of the studio.
JW
Dunno, House. But it felt to me that it needs something. Forgive the following overly-technical term, but it lacked "oomph"! You might be right about the exclusives theory (and I may be wrong about the live interviews), but it was almost boring with the same person sat at the desk all the way through.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not personally a fan of newsreaders standing up, but I do feel that two presenters (who get on well with each other) can often carry if off.
A difficult thing to achieve without succumbing to the other gimmicks which generally prevail in 2010.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not personally a fan of newsreaders standing up, but I do feel that two presenters (who get on well with each other) can often carry if off.
A difficult thing to achieve without succumbing to the other gimmicks which generally prevail in 2010.
HO
You know the number one thing I think would improve the One, Six and Ten? Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
They used to use this style her in the UK but it seems to have fallen out of fashion, despite still being very popular in the US. I can understand it would be too much preparation to use on something like the NC, where new stories appear very quickly (and generally everything seems chaotic) but there's not really any excuse for a formatted, formulated bulletin like the Ten.
Dunno, House. But it felt to me that it needs something. Forgive the following overly-technical term, but it lacked "oomph"! You might be right about the exclusives theory (and I may be wrong about the live interviews), but it was almost boring with the same person sat at the desk all the way through.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not personally a fan of newsreaders standing up, but I do feel that two presenters (who get on well with each other) can often carry if off.
A difficult thing to achieve without succumbing to the other gimmicks which generally prevail in 2010.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not personally a fan of newsreaders standing up, but I do feel that two presenters (who get on well with each other) can often carry if off.
A difficult thing to achieve without succumbing to the other gimmicks which generally prevail in 2010.
You know the number one thing I think would improve the One, Six and Ten? Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
They used to use this style her in the UK but it seems to have fallen out of fashion, despite still being very popular in the US. I can understand it would be too much preparation to use on something like the NC, where new stories appear very quickly (and generally everything seems chaotic) but there's not really any excuse for a formatted, formulated bulletin like the Ten.
DF
Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
Like this? The News Channel did this for images at first, when they first relaunched and moved to N6, instead of the current side panels. (Image courtesy of The TV Room. http://thetvroom.com/)
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-063/main-001-88.jpg
Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
Like this? The News Channel did this for images at first, when they first relaunched and moved to N6, instead of the current side panels. (Image courtesy of The TV Room. http://thetvroom.com/)
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-063/main-001-88.jpg
JW
I quite like that, although think it would look better if the image was just "slightly" smaller and slightly isometric as opposed to flush.
CH
Exclusives to me are very gimmicky. I personally don't turn to BBC News because I think they might be talking about something that ITV or Sky don't know. I turn on because the BBC is the most reliable and informative, without patronising with flashy graphics or presenters walking about.
I think something more needs to be made of the Ten O'Clock News Hour that they launched around 2005. Huw should continue until 11 on the News Channel, perhaps then with more live interviews and newspaper reviews. At the moment with the change of presenter, it feels like it just goes back to the News Channel as normal without it being a stand-alone bulletin. I think the same could be done with the Six with better use of the whole of TC7.
That's not gimmicky, it's very old-hat. American bulletins do it and ITV did until 2006ish. Looks very out-dated now.
I think something more needs to be made of the Ten O'Clock News Hour that they launched around 2005. Huw should continue until 11 on the News Channel, perhaps then with more live interviews and newspaper reviews. At the moment with the change of presenter, it feels like it just goes back to the News Channel as normal without it being a stand-alone bulletin. I think the same could be done with the Six with better use of the whole of TC7.
You know the number one thing I think would improve the One, Six and Ten? Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
That's not gimmicky, it's very old-hat. American bulletins do it and ITV did until 2006ish. Looks very out-dated now.
HO
I said it was old hat, and I said it had fallen out of fashion.
But it's the difference between whether you're doing it for style or for purpose. The above image has the photo on the BARCO, meaning it's shows up on the lines and is at a slight angle. It's also too big which means too much of Jon from too far away has to be seen.
Similar problem here:
http://www.dolben.demon.co.uk/newschannel/051203_geraintvincent.jpg
(Thanks presumably to 'Londoner' here, all copyright to ITN and/or ITV.)
Compare this to ABC News (though I'm not a fan particularly of their graphics):
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/adf5E7v-U3c/hqdefault.jpg
(Thanks to this website. All copyright to ABC News.)
And you're looking at something quite different. On ITV's one again there's too much of Geraint, too many distractions and the photos are set into the background to benefit the style. On the ABC News one, which is similar to how CBS do it too, and focus remains on Diane Sawyer, with the photo and text only there to illustrate the story. The background behind Diane also changes colour and/or design every few stories, keeping it fresh.
I'm saying that replace these boring, dull shots of Huw's head in front of a repetitive fake background with a shot of Huw's head next to a small, relevant photo in front of a repetitive fake background and you have something far more interesting.
Exclusives to me are very gimmicky. I personally don't turn to BBC News because I think they might be talking about something that ITV or Sky don't know. I turn on because the BBC is the most reliable and informative, without patronising with flashy graphics or presenters walking about.
I think something more needs to be made of the Ten O'Clock News Hour that they launched around 2005. Huw should continue until 11 on the News Channel, perhaps then with more live interviews and newspaper reviews. At the moment with the change of presenter, it feels like it just goes back to the News Channel as normal without it being a stand-alone bulletin. I think the same could be done with the Six with better use of the whole of TC7.
That's not gimmicky, it's very old-hat. American bulletins do it and ITV did until 2006ish. Looks very out-dated now.
I think something more needs to be made of the Ten O'Clock News Hour that they launched around 2005. Huw should continue until 11 on the News Channel, perhaps then with more live interviews and newspaper reviews. At the moment with the change of presenter, it feels like it just goes back to the News Channel as normal without it being a stand-alone bulletin. I think the same could be done with the Six with better use of the whole of TC7.
You know the number one thing I think would improve the One, Six and Ten? Have the zoomed out slightly, with space on the (viewers') right and drop in a photo and tagline. Done properly it's not gimmicky, it doesn't take away from the content and works a hell of a lot better than these wide shots with a slightly blurry photo on a side wall, but it can really improve an otherwise dull broadcast.
That's not gimmicky, it's very old-hat. American bulletins do it and ITV did until 2006ish. Looks very out-dated now.
I said it was old hat, and I said it had fallen out of fashion.
But it's the difference between whether you're doing it for style or for purpose. The above image has the photo on the BARCO, meaning it's shows up on the lines and is at a slight angle. It's also too big which means too much of Jon from too far away has to be seen.
Similar problem here:
http://www.dolben.demon.co.uk/newschannel/051203_geraintvincent.jpg
(Thanks presumably to 'Londoner' here, all copyright to ITN and/or ITV.)
Compare this to ABC News (though I'm not a fan particularly of their graphics):
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/adf5E7v-U3c/hqdefault.jpg
(Thanks to this website. All copyright to ABC News.)
And you're looking at something quite different. On ITV's one again there's too much of Geraint, too many distractions and the photos are set into the background to benefit the style. On the ABC News one, which is similar to how CBS do it too, and focus remains on Diane Sawyer, with the photo and text only there to illustrate the story. The background behind Diane also changes colour and/or design every few stories, keeping it fresh.
I'm saying that replace these boring, dull shots of Huw's head in front of a repetitive fake background with a shot of Huw's head next to a small, relevant photo in front of a repetitive fake background and you have something far more interesting.
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AC
Some really experimental, original shots on the News at Six tonight. However, I can't say I liked any of these non-standard shots. The close-ups with such a perspective that made Kate look like a giant, and another which showed the inside of the desk. The director shouldn't be on the Six again!