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(April 2008)

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CH
Chie
Pete posted:
Chie posted:
But that's the point - it can be interpreted in different ways.


I think the point is you interpret things in cmpletely different ways than normal people.

What would you prefer exactly? That they trawled his photo albums for all the ones where he was cackling in an evil way, pointing and laughing at graves, rewatching footage of 9/11 with a big tub of popcorn, ones with devil horns on his head?


Yes.
HO
House
Chie posted:
Pete posted:
Chie posted:
But that's the point - it can be interpreted in different ways.


I think the point is you interpret things in cmpletely different ways than normal people.

What would you prefer exactly? That they trawled his photo albums for all the ones where he was cackling in an evil way, pointing and laughing at graves, rewatching footage of 9/11 with a big tub of popcorn, ones with devil horns on his head?


Yes.


Thank God you're not in charge of a news broadcaster. In fact, make that: Thank God you're opinion doesn't matter to the rest of the world.
BB
BBC LDN
Chie posted:
Pete posted:
Chie posted:
But that's the point - it can be interpreted in different ways.


I think the point is you interpret things in cmpletely different ways than normal people.

What would you prefer exactly? That they trawled his photo albums for all the ones where he was cackling in an evil way, pointing and laughing at graves, rewatching footage of 9/11 with a big tub of popcorn, ones with devil horns on his head?


Yes.


I actually don't know whether this is all an act and you just like pretending to be a d!ck, or whether you are genuinely this way, and looking for flaws and faults in things and making a big deal out of them is actually your thing - but either way, it's really really boring.

There is no ambiguity here. This is not a grey area where large swathes of the audience may get the wrong idea about something that was pretended in a vague way, or where there was a specific agenda to mislead. No intelligent person would interpret this kind of montage sequence as any kind of attempt to elicit sympathy for the gunman, nor would any reasonable mind believe that the input of psychologists would be another part of a conspiracy designed to make viewers feel sorry for the man.

The only possible way that I could even conceive of drawing such stupid conclusions would be if someone had never previously seen exactly the same kind of reporting on any number of previous occasions and outlets, and if that person were watching the report that you mentioned with the sound off. Under those circumstances, I might be able to accept that someone might see the images you described appearing as some kind of tribute, and that the graphics showing the presence of a psychologist might lead you to believe that this is a sad tale of a well liked person who died heroically perhaps - but if you're actually listening to what's being said, if you appreciate the context in which the montage is presented, and if you listen to what the psychologists have to say, it's pretty f#cking obvious that this isn't a piece about how much we must love this man; it's a routine "they walk among us" package that the news outlets roll out whenever something like this happens.

I'm pretty sure that similar packages were used for the 7/7 bombers, for example, and I'm sure that other users could reel off any number of other examples.

There is no conspiracy to lessen the disgust and contempt felt towards the man, and there is no room for confusion about how one must feel towards him in how his story has been told; it's just a tried-and-tested method for news outlets to tell audiences about the people behind the crimes with some framework of explaining what possible reasons those crimes were committed, and it's one that audiences are very familiar with.

Now, it may not be a particularly elegant or innovative way to communicate those points to the audience, but it does work, it's commonly used, and it's many many millions of miles away from being anything like "irresponsible reporting".

I'm having difficulty believing that you're too stupid to understand that already, but this kind of nonsense that you keep spouting is certainly lending weight to the notion that - at the very least - you are entirely lacking in any form of common sense.
JW
JamesWorldNews
BBC LDN, may I lighten the mood a little by stating that your signature image is fabulous. Who is that handsome chap featured in it?
JO
Joe
That is the BBC logo.
PE
Pete Founding member
That is the BBC logo.


just as ignorant as I'd expect from Jugalug.
JO
Joe
Pete posted:
That is the BBC logo.


just as ignorant as I'd expect from Jugalug.


Sad But I was trying so hard after sstripling's harsh words.
GE
thegeek Founding member
In what's possibly the most pointless OB I've seen in a long while, they've sent a sat truck out to the site of the train derailment in Scotland. Given the location, and the fact that it's the middle of the night, you can't actually see anything other than the reporter in front of a very dark background. And it made it to the second item in the 2am bulletin. World viewers must be scratching their heads.
JW
JamesWorldNews
World viewers must be scratching their heads.


Indeed we were. But then again, we usually are.

22 days later

WA
watchingtv
Tonights running order seemed terrible;

Sport (England)
Politics
Teenage death
Politics
2 sides of care
Sport
(I think a few stories have been missed but the basic idea)

Roughly that order, well to me it should have been ;

Politics
teenage death
2 sides of care
then finish with general sport news (not just Football)
CH
chris_rgu
weather at 18.18? why are we getting a shortened news at 6?

At 18.20 george said 'it's nearly half past six'
RE
Revitt
And Harry Gration on Look North has just apologised to viewers who have tuned in at 1830 only to find they've missed the first 10 minutes. Disgraceful. The BBC can't wait to get the tennis back on 1.

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