SP
And any shots where the camera moves or zooms would look very fake too. The old N6 set with screens at the back showing the newsroom got away with it because the cameras didn't really move.
The problem is though if you tried a lot of the tighter shots they use in N6 that would look fake - the angle and perspective wouldn't be able to change so it would obviously be a display of a screen.
And any shots where the camera moves or zooms would look very fake too. The old N6 set with screens at the back showing the newsroom got away with it because the cameras didn't really move.
DA
I'm surprised we got Mishal doing our bulletin - i would have just thought we would have got the news channel presenters - that's what they've done in the past but I suppose with N9 they are more able to do this as they have two new desks.
At the end she said "If you are watching in Scotland, time now for the news where you are tonight" which I thought was a rubbish and wrong thing to say as the viewers location is irrelevant. She should have said "If you are watching on BBC One, time now for Reporting Scotland" which would be a correct statement.
BBC One Scotland are having the main evening news at 10 tonight rather than 10:30 with the rest of the UK. They have sometimes included different stories that are more relevant to Scotland when this has happened before (normally sport)
I'm surprised we got Mishal doing our bulletin - i would have just thought we would have got the news channel presenters - that's what they've done in the past but I suppose with N9 they are more able to do this as they have two new desks.
At the end she said "If you are watching in Scotland, time now for the news where you are tonight" which I thought was a rubbish and wrong thing to say as the viewers location is irrelevant. She should have said "If you are watching on BBC One, time now for Reporting Scotland" which would be a correct statement.
MI
I'm surprised we got Mishal doing our bulletin - i would have just thought we would have got the news channel presenters - that's what they've done in the past but I suppose with N9 they are more able to do this as they have two new desks.
On at least one previous occasion the BBC One presenter, and in fact I believe it was Mishal, has presented the bulletin for Scotland.
I always think it would just be more easier for Reporting Scotland to cover the entire bulletin - but no doubt that would open a huge can of worms within the BBC
BBC One Scotland are having the main evening news at 10 tonight rather than 10:30 with the rest of the UK. They have sometimes included different stories that are more relevant to Scotland when this has happened before (normally sport)
I'm surprised we got Mishal doing our bulletin - i would have just thought we would have got the news channel presenters - that's what they've done in the past but I suppose with N9 they are more able to do this as they have two new desks.
On at least one previous occasion the BBC One presenter, and in fact I believe it was Mishal, has presented the bulletin for Scotland.
I always think it would just be more easier for Reporting Scotland to cover the entire bulletin - but no doubt that would open a huge can of worms within the BBC
NG
I always think it would just be more easier for Reporting Scotland to cover the entire bulletin - but no doubt that would open a huge can of worms within the BBC
Less straightforward than that - you'd have to feed all the reports from London to Glasgow, get London to script it and produce it etc. (I can't imagine Glasgow have that many producers across the main national and international stories with any depth - why would they need to? - so you wouldn't want the Glasgow newsroom to produce it and script it)
So why not just get London to do it - as they have for years?
If there are any live reports in it - there would also be the issue of Glasgow and London wanting the reporters at the same time - just as in the old days when the BBC One bulletins weren't simulcasts.
noggin
Founding member
I always think it would just be more easier for Reporting Scotland to cover the entire bulletin - but no doubt that would open a huge can of worms within the BBC
Less straightforward than that - you'd have to feed all the reports from London to Glasgow, get London to script it and produce it etc. (I can't imagine Glasgow have that many producers across the main national and international stories with any depth - why would they need to? - so you wouldn't want the Glasgow newsroom to produce it and script it)
So why not just get London to do it - as they have for years?
If there are any live reports in it - there would also be the issue of Glasgow and London wanting the reporters at the same time - just as in the old days when the BBC One bulletins weren't simulcasts.
CR
To me, the current backdrop is very good, and is it actually the usual backdrop? I do like it however, but I despise the rail.
EDIT: This backdrop
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3223/ferf3.jpg
EDIT: This backdrop
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3223/ferf3.jpg
PE
The problem is though if you tried a lot of the tighter shots they use in N6 that would look fake - the angle and perspective wouldn't be able to change so it would obviously be a display of a screen.
The only way of realistically using screens to represent something real (I.e. a studio, where there's too much detail compared to, say, the previous skies backdrop) is to create software that can work out where the camera is, similar to how ITV use their green screen technology. Though I doubt it would be reliable enough - how any signal could get from the camera to each screen in half a second or less is incredibly unlikely given the problems they already have with them.
Indeed the reaction time was one of the reasons ITV used animations and swoopy shots to change the backdrop rather than just a straight cut.
Pete
Founding member
Example of a real, working newsroom on a backdrop:
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg
The problem is though if you tried a lot of the tighter shots they use in N6 that would look fake - the angle and perspective wouldn't be able to change so it would obviously be a display of a screen.
The only way of realistically using screens to represent something real (I.e. a studio, where there's too much detail compared to, say, the previous skies backdrop) is to create software that can work out where the camera is, similar to how ITV use their green screen technology. Though I doubt it would be reliable enough - how any signal could get from the camera to each screen in half a second or less is incredibly unlikely given the problems they already have with them.
Indeed the reaction time was one of the reasons ITV used animations and swoopy shots to change the backdrop rather than just a straight cut.
FL
That looks like the ITN atrium.
To me, the current backdrop is very good, and is it actually the usual backdrop? I do like it however, but I despise the rail.
EDIT: This backdrop
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3223/ferf3.jpg
EDIT: This backdrop
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3223/ferf3.jpg
That looks like the ITN atrium.
SP
Is there still part of the backdrop which was used for the election (with the party colours) just to the right of the big screen on the "nationals" set in N9? It's just at the edge of the 16:9 frame on the wide shot.
GR
Looks like the same background and they've some how tinted it to be more midnight blue?
Is there still part of the backdrop which was used for the election (with the party colours) just to the right of the big screen on the "nationals" set in N9? It's just at the edge of the 16:9 frame on the wide shot.
Looks like the same background and they've some how tinted it to be more midnight blue?
SP
There just seems to be some yellow there which makes me think it's the yellow which represented the Lib Dems for the elections.