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BBC National News: Presentation

(April 2008)

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JO
Joe
Can someone explain why BBC News decided to change their studio look in the middle of the Christmas season.
I have seem to lost track of the changes made, couldn't they have waited til Monday 4th January 2010.


Why can't you read the explanation in this thread?


Oh grow up Gavin. Why is it always about what's best for everyone else? Think of JayKingDoire and the effort it would require him to go back a few pages for once.
BO
Bob
BBC One Scotland are having the main evening news at 10 tonight rather than 10:30 with the rest of the UK. They have sometimes included different stories that are more relevant to Scotland when this has happened before (normally sport)
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Good to see they've got it right this time - at 1:00 the headline on the big screen read BRITAIN EXECUTED rather than BRITON EXECUTED as it does now - can't believe nobody noticed this - standards slipping at the BBC.
BR
Brekkie
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but why did tonight's bulletins come from N9? I thought they used N6 for the Sunday bulletins.


Doing technical etc works in both the regular News Channel / BBC One studio (N6) & also the regular studio for Andy Marr/Politics Show/Working Lunch/Breakfast/Newsnight/Newsround (TC7).

Dunno about Newsround, but the other TC7 shows are on Christmas break at the moment & Breakfast comes from another studio during holiday periods anyway!


Sorry if this has been mentioned, but why did tonight's bulletins come from N9? I thought they used N6 for the Sunday bulletins.


They are having new Barco projectors/screens fitted in N6, to stop the mismatched panel and crazy paving effect. TC7 is is having it's floor painted.

These two studios seem to be relatively high maintenance - and surely these things could have been arranged so one of the studios was available. And though this week seems a sensible time to do it in theory, in reality BBC News is getting it's highest figures of the year, with over 7m watching some evening bulletins.

That said, the temporary studio does look much better.
JO
Joe
Surely this has been explained Brekkie? Earlier in the thread? Confused
HO
House
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but why did tonight's bulletins come from N9? I thought they used N6 for the Sunday bulletins.


Doing technical etc works in both the regular News Channel / BBC One studio (N6) & also the regular studio for Andy Marr/Politics Show/Working Lunch/Breakfast/Newsnight/Newsround (TC7).

Dunno about Newsround, but the other TC7 shows are on Christmas break at the moment & Breakfast comes from another studio during holiday periods anyway!


Sorry if this has been mentioned, but why did tonight's bulletins come from N9? I thought they used N6 for the Sunday bulletins.


They are having new Barco projectors/screens fitted in N6, to stop the mismatched panel and crazy paving effect. TC7 is is having it's floor painted.

These two studios seem to be relatively high maintenance - and surely these things could have been arranged so one of the studios was available. And though this week seems a sensible time to do it in theory, in reality BBC News is getting it's highest figures of the year, with over 7m watching some evening bulletins.

That said, the temporary studio does look much better.


There isn't really another opportunity now for TC7 to be done - there isn't another studio to move programmes into and keep the set layout the same (I don't know how flexible the 'new' N6 is but certainly when it first relaunched with BARCOs Working Lunch and Newsnight squeezed into it for a week, but had very little space given their big sofas and things.)

I'm personally unsure why they needed to do N6 now rather than later, but I guess other programmes wouldn't be needing N9 at this time (it is still used for some documentaries and programmes) and presumably they wanted the studio fixing long before the elections where, presumably, a lot of the bulletins will be the highest they are this year (obviously I'm excluding actual election coverage).
JD
jdav
An example of a real newsroom being displayed looking a lot better on barco screens:
http://thetvroom.com/bbcuk/bbc-news-24-03-30.html

Close up shots look a lot more realistic.
MW
Mike W
Example of a real, working newsroom on a backdrop:
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg
JD
jdav
Example of a real, working newsroom on a backdrop:
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg


Newsroom is nice, shame about the studio. It has to be on of the worst designs I have ever seen. How amateurish.

Even the carpet isnt cut properley. Stupid platform aswell.
HO
House
Example of a real, working newsroom on a backdrop:
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg


The problem is though if you tried a lot of the tighter shots they use in N6 that would look fake - the angle and perspective wouldn't be able to change so it would obviously be a display of a screen.

The only way of realistically using screens to represent something real (I.e. a studio, where there's too much detail compared to, say, the previous skies backdrop) is to create software that can work out where the camera is, similar to how ITV use their green screen technology. Though I doubt it would be reliable enough - how any signal could get from the camera to each screen in half a second or less is incredibly unlikely given the problems they already have with them.
MW
Mike W
House posted:
Example of a real, working newsroom on a backdrop:
http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-f/f-067/main-003-12.jpg


The problem is though if you tried a lot of the tighter shots they use in N6 that would look fake - the angle and perspective wouldn't be able to change so it would obviously be a display of a screen.


That is a real newsroom. There is glass separating it.
CH
chris_rgu
Bob posted:
BBC One Scotland are having the main evening news at 10 tonight rather than 10:30 with the rest of the UK. They have sometimes included different stories that are more relevant to Scotland when this has happened before (normally sport)


I'm surprised we got Mishal doing our bulletin - i would have just thought we would have got the news channel presenters - that's what they've done in the past but I suppose with N9 they are more able to do this as they have two new desks.

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