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BBC National News: Presentation

(April 2008)

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AQ
Aquasetia
Just sent a complaint into the BBC.

Absolutely pathetic. For the last hour, Gavin Estler has been doing breaking news from on your doorstep. You have roof cameras, reporters in amongst the crowd, reporters following Nick Griffin, and what do BBC News do? Stop showing rolling news coverage, and go to a pre-scripted news bulletin. At this moment in time, the only news organisation in the UK showing live pictures from outside the BBC studios is ... Sky News.
I repeat, absolutely pathetic. Keep scripted news bulletins on BBC One and make the News channel rolling news, especially when it is on your doorstep.
CH
chris_rgu
I'm guessing it's either because TC7 is being used for Question Time this evening or the studio is considered too vulnerable for a network news broadcast given the protestors outside. TC7 is on the ground floor in the main part of TVC and has an external door, IIRC. N6 is further inside the building, if I recall, and obviously has no external access.


What studio does Question time normally come from? Is it not a bigger studio?
ME
mediaman2007
I'm guessing it's either because TC7 is being used for Question Time this evening or the studio is considered too vulnerable for a network news broadcast given the protestors outside. TC7 is on the ground floor in the main part of TVC and has an external door, IIRC. N6 is further inside the building, if I recall, and obviously has no external access.


What studio does Question time normally come from? Is it not a bigger studio?


All sorts of theatres/studios across the UK.
ME
mediaman2007
Just sent a complaint into the BBC.

Absolutely pathetic. For the last hour, Gavin Estler has been doing breaking news from on your doorstep. You have roof cameras, reporters in amongst the crowd, reporters following Nick Griffin, and what do BBC News do? Stop showing rolling news coverage, and go to a pre-scripted news bulletin. At this moment in time, the only news organisation in the UK showing live pictures from outside the BBC studios is ... Sky News.
I repeat, absolutely pathetic. Keep scripted news bulletins on BBC One and make the News channel rolling news, especially when it is on your doorstep.


And what about those people who want some other news outside the BNP appearing on Question Time? The BBC don't have to be so predictable as you want and spell out what is happening is outside their building.
HO
House
Just sent a complaint into the BBC.

Absolutely pathetic. For the last hour, Gavin Estler has been doing breaking news from on your doorstep. You have roof cameras, reporters in amongst the crowd, reporters following Nick Griffin, and what do BBC News do? Stop showing rolling news coverage, and go to a pre-scripted news bulletin. At this moment in time, the only news organisation in the UK showing live pictures from outside the BBC studios is ... Sky News.
I repeat, absolutely pathetic. Keep scripted news bulletins on BBC One and make the News channel rolling news, especially when it is on your doorstep.


Considering we're at the eleventh minute of Nick Griffin coverage on a 30 minute programme, I think that's quite an extreme view! Actually in many ways I think networks like the BBC go too overboard on this kind of coverage, so showing twenty minutes of other news is hardly a bad thing. Besides, they've done now over two hours of solid coverage and Nick Griffin is now in the building - there's little the protesters can actually do now but protest.

And, as Robert has said, they may well have felt TC7 wasn't secure enough for live national programming, so using N6 is the logical option.
CH
chris
House posted:
Just sent a complaint into the BBC.

Absolutely pathetic. For the last hour, Gavin Estler has been doing breaking news from on your doorstep. You have roof cameras, reporters in amongst the crowd, reporters following Nick Griffin, and what do BBC News do? Stop showing rolling news coverage, and go to a pre-scripted news bulletin. At this moment in time, the only news organisation in the UK showing live pictures from outside the BBC studios is ... Sky News.
I repeat, absolutely pathetic. Keep scripted news bulletins on BBC One and make the News channel rolling news, especially when it is on your doorstep.


Considering we're at the eleventh minute of Nick Griffin coverage on a 30 minute programme, I think that's quite an extreme view! Actually in many ways I think networks like the BBC go too overboard on this kind of coverage, so showing twenty minutes of other news is hardly a bad thing. Besides, they've done now over two hours of solid coverage and Nick Griffin is now in the building - there's little the protesters can actually do now but protest.


Exactly. How can you call this pathetic Delenn? There are other things going on in the world and, if anything, they're not sensationalising the story, nor are they giving the BNP overwhelming publicity. I say good on the BBC from showing some other news.
AQ
Aquasetia
The other things going on in the world is OK for a BBC One bulletin. On a rolling news channel, they should cover it, not just stop it mid flow. It shows the issue with putting a news bulletin on a rolling news channel.
NG
noggin Founding member
Interesting. After the first two recession reports on the Six O'Clock News, there was a short hand to the regions for a regional recession opt-out, before the rest of the days news.
NG
noggin Founding member
The other things going on in the world is OK for a BBC One bulletin. On a rolling news channel, they should cover it, not just stop it mid flow. It shows the issue with putting a news bulletin on a rolling news channel.


Yep - but the costs of running two services are no longer deemed justified. Sky have the advantage of only having one TV channel to service. The BBC have multiple outlets...

Given that more than a third of the Six O'Clock News was Nick Griffin coverage, and included some decent packaged reports rather than rolling repetition of the same stuff, it didn't seem that disastrous to me. Very little happened during the 15 minutes that other news was being covered...
NG
noggin Founding member
I'm guessing it's either because TC7 is being used for Question Time this evening or the studio is considered too vulnerable for a network news broadcast given the protestors outside. TC7 is on the ground floor in the main part of TVC and has an external door, IIRC. N6 is further inside the building, if I recall, and obviously has no external access.


What studio does Question time normally come from? Is it not a bigger studio?


It isn't usually a studio programme - these days it is an outside broadcast coming from a variety of regional venues (theatres etc.)

When there were regional studios to be used (such as Meridian's in Southampton) it was a mix of OB and studio - but latterly it has been prety much entirely OB.
BN
Breakfast News
Interesting. After the first two recession reports on the Six O'Clock News, there was a short hand to the regions for a regional recession opt-out, before the rest of the days news.


Quite clever IMO...worked well...even Scotland managed not to bugger...cut back in time!
CH
chris
Interesting. After the first two recession reports on the Six O'Clock News, there was a short hand to the regions for a regional recession opt-out, before the rest of the days news.


Quite clever IMO...worked well...even Scotland managed not to b****r...cut back in time!


I'm sure they've done this before on the six. Might have been the recession as well.

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