I agree that the screens were a bit of a mistake. For the wide shots they're perfectly fine, but when they're not calibrated they really don't look that good, and on the weather especially (not including my previous post) they really don't look great. The lines are extremely visible and sometimes the picture is not seamless between screens. Whilst screens look better than CSO in real life, so a tour of a BBC studio would be more impressive than seeing a big green blanket in the ITV news studio, the ITV news studio looks much better on screen (in my opinion of course)
I agree the screens need tuning (as I said), but I disagree that the lines are that visible (maybe just me) or that they were a mistake. In fact, I would say I prefer 'real' to CSO, because it just looks better to me on screen. So perhaps we just disagree!
I've said it before, and many may disagree, but N6 is in a bit of a state. I honestly think these Barco screens were a bit of a mistake.
Okay, I won't disagree with you. If you can convince me you're right. But at the moment you have no chance of doing this because you haven't said how. I agree, some of the settings need to be changed on the screens, but apart from that, the studio/set is in no way "in a state" or "shabby" (as has been said before). And please, this time, respond.
I agree that the screens were a bit of a mistake. For the wide shots they're perfectly fine, but when they're not calibrated they really don't look that good, and on the weather especially (not including my previous post) they really don't look great. The lines are extremely visible and sometimes the picture is not seamless between screens. Whilst screens look better than CSO in real life, so a tour of a BBC studio would be more impressive than seeing a big green blanket in the ITV news studio, the ITV news studio looks much better on screen (in my opinion of course)
Yea, that's what I mean. As I have been challenged to justify myself, I share your points Mr Stabby....the weather seems to be looking worse as the days go by. I'm not in any way an expert, so I don't know how technologically advanced N6 or TC7 is, but when the colour balance on each screen is different, when the floor shows extremely visible scratches and when the camera at the top of the hour judders as it zooms, just from my point of view, it doesn't inspire greatness.
Maybe because the studio just looks so bland and bare now, it makes it seem like such a horrible set. I'm probably at fault for comparing it with the N6 from 1999 or indeed 2003, when you had proper fixtures and fittings - small details such as the metal pole that ran along the back wall, the carpet underneath the desk, the wooden floor, real TV screens used for interview and a bit more imagination and flexibilty with the choice of shot. Now we have 3 walls with those troublesome screens, a desk and a podium plonked somewhere to hold a laptop.
I know money's a bit tighter these days, but just compare the N6 we had in 2002 and the one we've got today. The 2008 version just seems a bit shabby to me...
The screens in N6 are in serious need of repair again. This is just appalling:
Is the screen at the top right just washed out or is it knackered/switched off and that's why it's grey?
How feasible would it be to have a green cyclorama that could be pulled in front of the screens, then in the event of the screens failing, use fixed camera positions and CSO in a simple background, like when they decamped to TC10 a few summers ago?
I've said it before, and many may disagree, but N6 is in a bit of a state. I honestly think these Barco screens were a bit of a mistake.
Okay, I won't disagree with you. If you can convince me you're right. But at the moment you have no chance of doing this because you haven't said how. I agree, some of the settings need to be changed on the screens, but apart from that, the studio/set is in no way "in a state" or "shabby" (as has been said before). And please, this time, respond.
I agree that the screens were a bit of a mistake. For the wide shots they're perfectly fine, but when they're not calibrated they really don't look that good, and on the weather especially (not including my previous post) they really don't look great. The lines are extremely visible and sometimes the picture is not seamless between screens. Whilst screens look better than CSO in real life, so a tour of a BBC studio would be more impressive than seeing a big green blanket in the ITV news studio, the ITV news studio looks much better on screen (in my opinion of course)
I'm probably at fault for comparing it with the N6 from 1999 or indeed 2003, when you had proper fixtures and fittings - small details such as the metal pole that ran along the back wall, the carpet underneath the desk, the wooden floor, real TV screens used for interview and a bit more imagination and flexibilty with the choice of shot. Now we have 3 walls with those troublesome screens, a desk and a podium plonked somewhere to hold a laptop.
I know money's a bit tighter these days, but just compare the N6 we had in 2002 and the one we've got today. The 2008 version just seems a bit shabby to me...
I understand the screens make an easier turn around for the next programme (of course that purpose is a bit useless in N6 now with News 24 permanently there) but the set doesn't look as good as the 1999 - 2003 or 2003 - 2006 sets because they had real fixtures as nat210790.
How does BBC Sport create its set used for programmes such as Match of the Day and Football Focus? It looks so much better.
The set doesn't look as good as the 1999 - 2003 or 2003 - 2006 sets because they had real fixtures as nat210790.
I do disagree with you! I really liked the sets you mentioned, but I just don't think they're as good as the ones we have now. I guess we just like different things.
Strange background on the Six tonight in TC7? Behind the guests on the rh side of the set, the screens had patches of black at the bottom. Watch back and you'll see.
Strange background on the Six tonight in TC7? Behind the guests on the rh side of the set, the screens had patches of black at the bottom. Watch back and you'll see.
I think you'll find that it was either the newsnight or newsround sofa. Also if you looked closely you could see one of the studio staff walking up to the sofa, during the interview.
Interesting to see the amazing ratings posted by the BBC News at Ten yesterday.
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Viewers looking for information about the Spanish plane crash appeared to tune into BBC1's 10pm bulletin, which attracted 7.1 million viewers and a 34% share. News at Ten had 2.2 million viewers and an 11% share.
How does BBC Sport create its set used for programmes such as Match of the Day and Football Focus? It looks so much better.
BBC Sport use three (I think) very expensive and very bright front projection HD projectors (you can see the boxes housing them on the floor behind the sofa) and their single sofa set occupies a space as big as the Newsnight / Newsround / Working Lunch / Breakfast studio. They have their presenters and guests a LONG way from their screens to avoid lighting spill on the screens. (However Sport do have a very clever screen controller that allows for far more HD graphic imagery to be used. News use SD - and sometimes sub-SD - graphics - as do Sky - in their walls, with only the backing being HD)
The Sport set is a great set, very well executed but is far less flexible than the News sets (as it doesn't need to be) and thus has fewer compromises, particularly in the screen technology and lighting.
It wouldn't fit into the current News Channel studio though.
The Sport's studio may look great but think of one thing and your realise how flexible the News studios are. How would you do DTLs (ie talking to correspondents).
I really liked the sets you mentioned, but I just don't think they're as good as the ones we have now. I guess we just like different things.