GS
Really? The BBC would not answer Newsnight Scotland's request for an interview AT ALL yesterday.
The link to Newsnight Scotland is http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00c11b0.shtml, and it is the first story.
Gavin Scott
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Hymagumba posted:
I've noticed on one or two stories on News 24 there has been a little "in england" added to the script.
Really? The BBC would not answer Newsnight Scotland's request for an interview AT ALL yesterday.
The link to Newsnight Scotland is http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00c11b0.shtml, and it is the first story.
PE
Really? The BBC would not answer Newsnight Scotland's request for an interview AT ALL yesterday.
when I say one or two i mean one or two. namely the funny gp surgery things "health officials have warned.. new clinics in england" intro rather than just "new clinics to be introduced" which would usually be used.
oh and what nice use of the RS set Newsnight made with that four way interview
Pete
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Gavin Scott posted:
Hymagumba posted:
I've noticed on one or two stories on News 24 there has been a little "in england" added to the script.
Really? The BBC would not answer Newsnight Scotland's request for an interview AT ALL yesterday.
when I say one or two i mean one or two. namely the funny gp surgery things "health officials have warned.. new clinics in england" intro rather than just "new clinics to be introduced" which would usually be used.
oh and what nice use of the RS set Newsnight made with that four way interview
ST
I think that's perhaps because you're looking for it today. I've long noticed the caveat 'England' or 'England & Wales' used for a number of years when they've been discussing NHS/Dept of Health matters on national bulletins.
Hymagumba posted:
when I say one or two i mean one or two. namely the funny gp surgery things "health officials have warned.. new clinics in england" intro rather than just "new clinics to be introduced" which would usually be used
I think that's perhaps because you're looking for it today. I've long noticed the caveat 'England' or 'England & Wales' used for a number of years when they've been discussing NHS/Dept of Health matters on national bulletins.
PE
Pete
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perhaps. and after reading this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7450479.stm
its interesting to note a flick through some previous stories shows that Scotland not allowing new stations to be built is mentioned in them. What IS however interesting is the starting sentences of them...
looking for things where they don't exist? maybe. but it is certainly more clear that scotland isn't involved in the newer article unlike the older one where i have to read further down to discover they're not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7450479.stm
its interesting to note a flick through some previous stories shows that Scotland not allowing new stations to be built is mentioned in them. What IS however interesting is the starting sentences of them...
Quote:
The government is inviting communities
in England, Northern Ireland and Wales
to volunteer to host waste from the UK's half-century of nuclear power.
Quote:
A new generation of nuclear power stations
in the UK
has been given formal backing by the government.
looking for things where they don't exist? maybe. but it is certainly more clear that scotland isn't involved in the newer article unlike the older one where i have to read further down to discover they're not.
GS
I think that's perhaps because you're looking for it today. I've long noticed the caveat 'England' or 'England & Wales' used for a number of years when they've been discussing NHS/Dept of Health matters on national bulletins.
Have you? I haven't - and I'm usually looking for it.
Even yesterday when reporting this very story, BBC network were showing footage of the Scottish Parliament - err... except they weren't.
They were showing the Church of Scotland General Assembly hall - which hasn't been the home of the Scottish Parliament for over 4 years .
Gavin Scott
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StuartPlymouth posted:
Hymagumba posted:
when I say one or two i mean one or two. namely the funny gp surgery things "health officials have warned.. new clinics in england" intro rather than just "new clinics to be introduced" which would usually be used
I think that's perhaps because you're looking for it today. I've long noticed the caveat 'England' or 'England & Wales' used for a number of years when they've been discussing NHS/Dept of Health matters on national bulletins.
Have you? I haven't - and I'm usually looking for it.
Even yesterday when reporting this very story, BBC network were showing footage of the Scottish Parliament - err... except they weren't.
They were showing the Church of Scotland General Assembly hall - which hasn't been the home of the Scottish Parliament for over 4 years .
ST
Yes. When I started working for the NHS I became more knowledgable about the 'national' differences within the UK (structure, history etc) and I suppose I became more aware of such reports in the media. I certainly noticed the caveat of 'E&W, Scotland or NI' being used quite often.
Furthermore, NHS Wales have increasingly operated as a seperate entity from England of late with their own initiatives and reported as such in the media. This means you tend to hear just '...in England' or '...in Wales' rather than '...in England & Wales' .
Gavin Scott posted:
Have you? I haven't - and I'm usually looking for it.
Yes. When I started working for the NHS I became more knowledgable about the 'national' differences within the UK (structure, history etc) and I suppose I became more aware of such reports in the media. I certainly noticed the caveat of 'E&W, Scotland or NI' being used quite often.
Furthermore, NHS Wales have increasingly operated as a seperate entity from England of late with their own initiatives and reported as such in the media. This means you tend to hear just '...in England' or '...in Wales' rather than '...in England & Wales' .
GS
Yes. When I started working for the NHS I became more knowledgable about the 'national' differences within the UK (structure, history etc) and I suppose I became more aware of such reports in the media. I certainly noticed the caveat of 'E&W, Scotland or NI' being used quite often.
Furthermore, NHS Wales have increasingly operated as a seperate entity from England of late with their own initiatives and reported as such in the media. This means you tend to hear just '...in England' or '...in Wales' rather than '...in England & Wales' .
That's the exception rather than the rule, Stu.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
StuartPlymouth posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
Have you? I haven't - and I'm usually looking for it.
Yes. When I started working for the NHS I became more knowledgable about the 'national' differences within the UK (structure, history etc) and I suppose I became more aware of such reports in the media. I certainly noticed the caveat of 'E&W, Scotland or NI' being used quite often.
Furthermore, NHS Wales have increasingly operated as a seperate entity from England of late with their own initiatives and reported as such in the media. This means you tend to hear just '...in England' or '...in Wales' rather than '...in England & Wales' .
That's the exception rather than the rule, Stu.
MD
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chris posted:
Back to the "what's the programme called?" saga, Kate just referred it to the 1 o'clock news again. I think that's what it should be called - this whole News at X thing is silly.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
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GR
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BBC News at Six O'Clock
BBC News at Ten O'Clock
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ etc
There will always be exceptions though eg Radio 1 Newsbeat, BBC Breakfast etc its not BBC News Beat or BBC News at Breakfast. Thats why the whole idea of uniforming names is ridiculous.
martinDTanderson posted:
chris posted:
Back to the "what's the programme called?" saga, Kate just referred it to the 1 o'clock news again. I think that's what it should be called - this whole News at X thing is silly.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
Simple Solution...
BBC News
BBC News Summary
BBC News Update
The BBC News Channel
BBC World News
BBC News at One O'Clock
The BBC News Hour at Five O'Clock
BBC News at Six O'Clock
BBC News at Ten O'Clock
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ etc
There will always be exceptions though eg Radio 1 Newsbeat, BBC Breakfast etc its not BBC News Beat or BBC News at Breakfast. Thats why the whole idea of uniforming names is ridiculous.
JO
I think the only time that everything should be unified are for the BBC One bulletins, News 24 and the news summaries, as these are obviously the same thing essentially, but at different times of the day.
The rest have different styles, formats and agendas, and as such should have a different look.
The rest have different styles, formats and agendas, and as such should have a different look.
CH
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BBC News Update
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BBC News at One O'Clock
The BBC News Hour at Five O'Clock
BBC News at Six O'Clock
BBC News at Ten O'Clock
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ etc
My thoughts:
BBC News - fine
BBC News Summary - fine
BBC News Update - fine
The BBC News Channel - sounds stupid (I really hate the word channel and BBC NEWS 24 was far superior)
BBC World News - fine
BBC News at One O'Clock - Too ITV
The BBC News Hour at Five O'Clock - That is just horrible.
BBC News at Six O'Clock - Too ITV
BBC News at Ten O'Clock - Seriously too ITV
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ - Fine
martinDTanderson posted:
chris posted:
Back to the "what's the programme called?" saga, Kate just referred it to the 1 o'clock news again. I think that's what it should be called - this whole News at X thing is silly.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
Plus, she also referred to the BBC NEWS Channel as "the News Channel". It's getting stupid now.
Simple Solution...
BBC News
BBC News Summary
BBC News Update
The BBC News Channel
BBC World News
BBC News at One O'Clock
The BBC News Hour at Five O'Clock
BBC News at Six O'Clock
BBC News at Ten O'Clock
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ etc
My thoughts:
BBC News - fine
BBC News Summary - fine
BBC News Update - fine
The BBC News Channel - sounds stupid (I really hate the word channel and BBC NEWS 24 was far superior)
BBC World News - fine
BBC News at One O'Clock - Too ITV
The BBC News Hour at Five O'Clock - That is just horrible.
BBC News at Six O'Clock - Too ITV
BBC News at Ten O'Clock - Seriously too ITV
The BBC News on BBC Radio __ - Fine