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BBC National News: Presentation

(April 2008)

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DT
DTV
aprilj posted:
BBC News at Six will be airing at 7pm tonight because of Euro 2012.


Will this be a repeat of the News Channel's News at Six, because according to the online schedule and Freesat EPG the News at Six is at Six on the News Channel.
GH
George Hill
DTV posted:
aprilj posted:
BBC News at Six will be airing at 7pm tonight because of Euro 2012.


Will this be a repeat of the News Channel's News at Six, because according to the online schedule and Freesat EPG the News at Six is at Six on the News Channel.


I doubt it. They probably haven't changed the news channel EPG. Most likely Clive/Annita will start at 6.
WO
Worzel
George Hill posted:
aprilj posted:
BBC News at Six will be airing at 7pm tonight because of Euro 2012.


I know people will disagree with me - but regular news should take priority over sport. They can move sport to BBC 2 or the Red button. The news at six should air at six regardless of the football. This is a complete pet hate of mine. Mad


Not when it comes down to audience figures, the football will receive the larger audience.
GH
George Hill
Worzel posted:
George Hill posted:
aprilj posted:
BBC News at Six will be airing at 7pm tonight because of Euro 2012.


I know people will disagree with me - but regular news should take priority over sport. They can move sport to BBC 2 or the Red button. The news at six should air at six regardless of the football. This is a complete pet hate of mine. Mad


Not when it comes down to audience figures, the football will receive the larger audience.


But the BBC as a public service broadcaster has a duty to provide regular news bulletins, despite audience figures. I'm sure they could put something else on at 6 every night and get a higher audience, but they can't do that. I don't personally feel they should be allowed to do so just to air football on bbc 1 instead of bbc 2.
JW
JamesWorldNews
That's actually a very valid point, when you put it that way. Why can't they just show it on BBC2?
WO
Worzel
George Hill posted:
Worzel posted:
George Hill posted:
aprilj posted:
BBC News at Six will be airing at 7pm tonight because of Euro 2012.


I know people will disagree with me - but regular news should take priority over sport. They can move sport to BBC 2 or the Red button. The news at six should air at six regardless of the football. This is a complete pet hate of mine. Mad


Not when it comes down to audience figures, the football will receive the larger audience.


But the BBC as a public service broadcaster has a duty to provide regular news bulletins, despite audience figures. I'm sure they could put something else on at 6 every night and get a higher audience, but they can't do that. I don't personally feel they should be allowed to do so just to air football on bbc 1 instead of bbc 2.


I suppose it would be more understandable to delay the news if it were one of the home team games (I.e. England), as it has national interest.
SW
Steve Williams
George Hill posted:
But the BBC as a public service broadcaster has a duty to provide regular news bulletins, despite audience figures. I'm sure they could put something else on at 6 every night and get a higher audience, but they can't do that. I don't personally feel they should be allowed to do so just to air football on bbc 1 instead of bbc 2.


But they are doing a regular news bulletin, they're doing it at 7pm for a full half hour with a full half hour regional news. If anything this will give the news a higher priority and a higher audience because it will get a decent lead-in from the football, which is a big event, rather than getting low ratings because of the competition. And the BBC aren't trying to downgrade or avoid doing news bulletins because they get high ratings every night. It's not like they move it willy nilly for The Voice or a soap, it's an event they have no control over.

Presumably you'd have argued that the Jubilee concert should have moved over to BBC2 at ten o'clock because the news should be on at ten. What's the difference? And what about at the weekend?
JW
JamesWorldNews
Kasia Madera and Clive Myrie are your newscasters at Six on the NC. Enjoy!
CR
crownprince
BBC WORLD posted:
That's actually a very valid point, when you put it that way. Why can't they just show it on BBC2?


They might be a public service broadcaster but they don't HAVE to show the news at 6 o'clock. Get real, it doesn't happen too often. It's hardly an inconvienience. How sad.
GH
George Hill
Steve Williams posted:
George Hill posted:
But the BBC as a public service broadcaster has a duty to provide regular news bulletins, despite audience figures. I'm sure they could put something else on at 6 every night and get a higher audience, but they can't do that. I don't personally feel they should be allowed to do so just to air football on bbc 1 instead of bbc 2.


But they are doing a regular news bulletin, they're doing it at 7pm for a full half hour with a full half hour regional news. If anything this will give the news a higher priority and a higher audience because it will get a decent lead-in from the football, which is a big event, rather than getting low ratings because of the competition. And the BBC aren't trying to downgrade or avoid doing news bulletins because they get high ratings every night. It's not like they move it willy nilly for The Voice or a soap, it's an event they have no control over.

Presumably you'd have argued that the Jubilee concert should have moved over to BBC2 at ten o'clock because the news should be on at ten. What's the difference? And what about at the weekend?


The difference with Monday and the concert is that it was a bank holiday and a national event. As opposed to an opening match in a football tournament which isn't even being held in the country. I said when I first made the comment that people would disagree with me, but I stand by my original point. News is more important than football and people do tune in expecting a bulletin at six. They should get it!
SP
Steve in Pudsey
BBC WORLD posted:
That's actually a very valid point, when you put it that way. Why can't they just show it on BBC2?


The regional news doesn't work in England on BBC2. cf previous discussions every time Tim Henman or Andy Murray played at Wimbledon at about 6pm.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
George Hill posted:
Steve Williams posted:
George Hill posted:
But the BBC as a public service broadcaster has a duty to provide regular news bulletins, despite audience figures. I'm sure they could put something else on at 6 every night and get a higher audience, but they can't do that. I don't personally feel they should be allowed to do so just to air football on bbc 1 instead of bbc 2.


But they are doing a regular news bulletin, they're doing it at 7pm for a full half hour with a full half hour regional news. If anything this will give the news a higher priority and a higher audience because it will get a decent lead-in from the football, which is a big event, rather than getting low ratings because of the competition. And the BBC aren't trying to downgrade or avoid doing news bulletins because they get high ratings every night. It's not like they move it willy nilly for The Voice or a soap, it's an event they have no control over.

Presumably you'd have argued that the Jubilee concert should have moved over to BBC2 at ten o'clock because the news should be on at ten. What's the difference? And what about at the weekend?


The difference with Monday and the concert is that it was a bank holiday and a national event. As opposed to an opening match in a football tournament which isn't even being held in the country. I said when I first made the comment that people would disagree with me, but I stand by my original point. News is more important than football and people do tune in expecting a bulletin at six. They should get it!


Why are you kicking up such a fuss? You'll get your full hour of news as usual, just an hour later. I don't see why Euro 2012 should get booted to BBC2 just because some people want the news at 6 pm. Is it that hard to just wait an hour or switch to the BBC News Channel? I can't stand football, but I can see the logic behind the BBC's decision. Football is our national sport and you're deluded if you think people are only interested in watching England games. That's like Wimbledon fans only watching when one of our players is on. In reality, there's a core of dedicated fans who'll watch the whole thing. I'm sure you'll get by with the news schedule being a bit strange for a while, just like the rest of us will. It could be worse for you - at least the BBC are giving you a normal length bulletin. ITV have tonight shaved 15 minutes off their normal news hour.

The BBC and ITV will be damned if they do and damned if they don't with this one. If they put the football (over which they have no control) on their main channels then news junkies will be upset. If they put it on their second channel, news junkies will be happy but the viewers of the regular programmes on those channels will then be upset. Not to mention the football fans being given the message that their tournament isn't important. I think we should just cut them some slack.

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