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(April 2008)

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KO
KOAS
I skimmed Ben Brown's handback and the quarter-past headline round-up closing shot and thought they were great! Especially the latter - gave great sense of authority.

Must have missed the one showing the inside of the desk - which one was that?
CH
chris_rgu
KOAS posted:
I skimmed Ben Brown's handback and the quarter-past headline round-up closing shot and thought they were great! Especially the latter - gave great sense of authority.

Must have missed the one showing the inside of the desk - which one was that?


It was around 25:30 on iplayer - its not looking directly inside the desk (like zooming in on something on the desk), just at an angle when it was on Kate that you could see through the glass. Cables were a bit messy but I suppose some will enjoy the shot of Kate's legs!!!
KO
KOAS
I just watched it - that's terrible! On the whole there were some cool shots (especially at quarter past), and that one is good in terms of overall composition, but being able to see into the desk like that is incredibly unprofessional!

Although it is kind of interesting too ...
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The lighting on the piece about the World Cup bid is attrocious!
HO
House
More of the unconventional camera angles tonight. Different director or a usual one just trying something different?
BA
Bail Moderator
I think its more the jib op being allowed to have a bit more creativity.

Although I didn't think they ever used to use a jib on the nationals but its obvious in recent weeks that its been in action. I think it's nice to see some actual camerawork rather than remote heads... although... I guess on a jib its on a hothead anyway but you get my meaning.

I like that they're using it, if its there and they have an operator, it adds a bit more production value.
CH
chris
Bail posted:
I think its more the jib op being allowed to have a bit more creativity.

Although I didn't think they ever used to use a jib on the nationals but its obvious in recent weeks that its been in action. I think it's nice to see some actual camerawork rather than remote heads... although... I guess on a jib its on a hothead anyway but you get my meaning.

I like that they're using it, if its there and they have an operator, it adds a bit more production value.


I've always thought TC7 has much more imaginative camera angles than N6, assumably because they have more space to work with. Breakfast has done the same in more recent times.
PE
Pete Founding member
Some really experimental, original shots on the News at Six tonight. However, I can't say I liked any of these non-standard shots. The close-ups with such a perspective that made Kate look like a giant, and another which showed the inside of the desk. The director shouldn't be on the Six again!


So people moan on here about stodgy direction on the news and when they try something different they should be sacked. Are you from the Daily Mail?

Having watched Tuesday's I rather liked the intro and the lead into Mark Simpson's live, wasn't that keen on the one going into the Cameron's baby. Started a bit too high up so Kate had to crane her neck a bit. However a very similar shot worked better after the local headlines at quarter past as Kate was looking at the camera in front rather than at the ceiling about to fall over the back of her chair.

The simple moving shots were nice such as before the GCSE report and the US Afghan surge. It just makes it seem as if its actually being directed rather than run by robots from a gallery somewhere else in the building.
Last edited by Pete on 25 August 2010 3:03pm
DA
David
Pete posted:
However a very similar shot worked better after the local headlines at quarter past as Kate was looking at the camera in fron rather than the


Thank you for taking the time to find all the relevant iPlayer links, although I think a couple of the ones towards the end of your post have gone to cock. Also, you didn't finish the sentence above.
PE
Pete Founding member
David posted:
Thank you for taking the time to find all the relevant iPlayer links, although I think a couple of the ones towards the end of your post have gone to cock.


yes the "copy link" button is rather temperamental on the iplayer. should all work nicely now, cheers for that.
HO
House
Pete posted:
David posted:
Thank you for taking the time to find all the relevant iPlayer links, although I think a couple of the ones towards the end of your post have gone to cock.


yes the "copy link" button is rather temperamental on the iplayer. should all work nicely now, cheers for that.


Cheers Pete. I pretty much agree with your views on those shots. It was certainly more interesting than usual BBC bulletins.
JO
Joe
Thanks for the linking - much better than me clicking about trying to find the relevant ones! Some really nice ones there though. I don't think it takes away from the news itself at all.

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