The Newsroom

BBC National/News Channel from New Broadcasting House

(March 2013)

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NG
noggin Founding member
Ah, interesting. Yes I did notice that the blurring got worse before it got better. I suspect you're right then that it was a mistake by whoever was operating the cameras.

It reminds me a little of TVC's nuances regarding sound mixing. The sound desk in TC7 had faders which opened when pulled downwards, whereas N6 had ones that you pushed to open. If you were sound mixing the Six and Ten shift, you had to watch out for that as you were mixing in both galleries during the one shift. It probably gets easier with experience, but I do feel for those freelancers who had to cover. Imagine working at various different organisations, each with their own way of doing things, and having to be across it all. It must take quite a bit of skill.


To be honest if you're freelance and move around a lot between different set-ups it may actually be something you're used to and enjoy, as you don't get used to a single set-up. Certainly most freelance sound supervisors shouldn't struggle switching between "commercial" and "BBC" faders.

It's similar with vision mixers, monitor stack layouts (particularly PGM/PST monitor arrangements...), talkback etc. If you work in different galleries frequently (or even within the same shift) then you get used to the variety.
GE
Generic
faders going old skool BBC way on a programme as straight forward and formula led as a news bulletin, shouldn't, and isn't, that taxing.


Technically, the Old BBC way for sound faders is opposite to that on the Artemis Desks Smile
GE
Generic
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Not sure they do - HSC-300s with Fuji lenses controlled by Furio control system (that also controls the remote tracking) I believe. Auto-focus on normal studio cameras and lenses is still relatively unusual.

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As Noggin says...they do not autofocus.....although are sometimes sent to a prestored shot by MosArt that "might" include focus data.
That technically isn't autofocus.

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GE
Generic
I am using the word "technically" too many times in posts Shocked

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MA
Marcus Founding member
Ah, interesting. Yes I did notice that the blurring got worse before it got better. I suspect you're right then that it was a mistake by whoever was operating the cameras.

It reminds me a little of TVC's nuances regarding sound mixing. The sound desk in TC7 had faders which opened when pulled downwards, whereas N6 had ones that you pushed to open. If you were sound mixing the Six and Ten shift, you had to watch out for that as you were mixing in both galleries during the one shift. It probably gets easier with experience, but I do feel for those freelancers who had to cover. Imagine working at various different organisations, each with their own way of doing things, and having to be across it all. It must take quite a bit of skill.


The 6 and the 10 are hardly the most taxing of programmes to mix.

Anyway, Mosart mixes sound automatically these days. Plenty of time to snooze at the sound desk.


Which is why things keep getting faded out of early.
NG
noggin Founding member
faders going old skool BBC way on a programme as straight forward and formula led as a news bulletin, shouldn't, and isn't, that taxing.


Technically, the Old BBC way for sound faders is opposite to that on the Artemis Desks Smile


Yes - and in TV News at TVC only TC7 had "BBC" faders, N6,8 and 9 were all "commercial". (Millbank is still "BBC" I think.) Don't know about Radio News at NBH.
MU
Muckspreader
faders going old skool BBC way on a programme as straight forward and formula led as a news bulletin, shouldn't, and isn't, that taxing.


Technically, the Old BBC way for sound faders is opposite to that on the Artemis Desks Smile


Yes - and in TV News at TVC only TC7 had "BBC" faders, N6,8 and 9 were all "commercial". (Millbank is still "BBC" I think.) Don't know about Radio News at NBH.


The only place left with 'old skool' BBC faders is, as you say, the radio studio at Millbank.
At New BH, every radio sound desk is a Studer On Air 3000, as per the European tendering process win. All faders go up for open. In Old BH, the DHD and Studer desks are also up for open, as are the DHDs at Western House.
WE
Westy2
Whats the chance of an NC simulcast for East Midlands Today tonight?

If Midlands Today can have one for Stafford Hospital.........
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The only place left with 'old skool' BBC faders is, as you say, the radio studio at Millbank.


There are still a number of BBC Local Radio stations soldiering on with MkIII desks which have BBC faders (Newcastle, Devon, Wiltshire/Swindon, Cumbria to name a few), and a few stations with oddities like Radio Jersey
NG
noggin Founding member

The only place left with 'old skool' BBC faders is, as you say, the radio studio at Millbank.
At New BH, every radio sound desk is a Studer On Air 3000, as per the European tendering process win. All faders go up for open. In Old BH, the DHD and Studer desks are also up for open, as are the DHDs at Western House.


Ah - last time I was at Millbank in anger, the TV studio had recently been refurbed with a "BBC" fader Calrec (unlike all the Calrecs in Stage VI which had gone in a year or two earlier).
BK
bkman1990
Hiya guys. I will be short and sweet with this one.

I had looked many times now at the new look BBC News studios at Broadcasting House. I have to say the output from the new studios is brilliant. I also love the new countdown theme and the opening shot of the newsroom.

I am memorized (and still am Surprised ) by the the size of the newsroom when it is on cue, particularly at night when BBC News At Ten comes on with the clever use of the new blue lighting.

Overall, I am very impressed with the new setup. Well done to the BBC.
PH
Phen
Jonny posted:
Ohhh, the waiting for BBC One filler mix of the countdown music is rather good, isn't it?

Its fantastic - better than the actual countdown IMO. The additional strings really enhance it and make it sound so dramatic and authorative, almost like a movie soundtrack. I love how it loops back into itself too - seamless. Here it is for anyone who's not heard it yet:

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