DA
We can only assume it was the press conference between the US & Russia regarding Syria was expected to happen during the 6 but of course didn't happen until 6:45pm I think (or around that time). When things like this have happened in the past (before NBH) the news channel has taken the 6 but cut away from it if it needs to at the appropriate moment. Of course in TVC getting the news channel out of the 6 wasn't a problem as it was all separate studios & galleries but given that the 6 and news channel all come from the same gallery now I don't know if they can route the news channel elsewhere mid broadcast of the 6 without affecting the 6 in some way? I'm guessing they possibly can but it was probably just deemed easier & cleaner to dump the news channel off to World for 30 mins who could handle it more smoothly.
Davidjb
Founding member
Has any explanation for the unexpected simulcast come to light?
We can only assume it was the press conference between the US & Russia regarding Syria was expected to happen during the 6 but of course didn't happen until 6:45pm I think (or around that time). When things like this have happened in the past (before NBH) the news channel has taken the 6 but cut away from it if it needs to at the appropriate moment. Of course in TVC getting the news channel out of the 6 wasn't a problem as it was all separate studios & galleries but given that the 6 and news channel all come from the same gallery now I don't know if they can route the news channel elsewhere mid broadcast of the 6 without affecting the 6 in some way? I'm guessing they possibly can but it was probably just deemed easier & cleaner to dump the news channel off to World for 30 mins who could handle it more smoothly.
OF
Here is something I had been thinking of for a while...
When the ITV National News set changes, the Regional News changes too. However at the BBC this doesn't happen till at least a year or so later. The Beeb is funded by Taxpayers and therefore their budget is smaller than an ITV Budget. A possibly cheaper way of changing the Studios around the Country could be by using Green Screen technology, when they want to change sets it can be easy and cheaper because its a fake backdrop. They could save money particularly in the East by having the Politics Show and Late Kick off in the same studio, hence not needing the external studio space, therefore helping their budget. They also have In-house Graphics Designers in the Broadcasting House Newsroom to help them create new Sets for the Studios. It could be possible for the Sub-Opt out studios (Oxford or Cambridge) to adopt this technology or go for an abstract Studio.
In the new BBC HD TV Channels press release there was additional information on launching regional variants of BBC One HD. Meaning that the regional news studios would have to be in HD and this would be the perfect opportunity.
(Thanks for Reading!)
Studio A
When the ITV National News set changes, the Regional News changes too. However at the BBC this doesn't happen till at least a year or so later. The Beeb is funded by Taxpayers and therefore their budget is smaller than an ITV Budget. A possibly cheaper way of changing the Studios around the Country could be by using Green Screen technology, when they want to change sets it can be easy and cheaper because its a fake backdrop. They could save money particularly in the East by having the Politics Show and Late Kick off in the same studio, hence not needing the external studio space, therefore helping their budget. They also have In-house Graphics Designers in the Broadcasting House Newsroom to help them create new Sets for the Studios. It could be possible for the Sub-Opt out studios (Oxford or Cambridge) to adopt this technology or go for an abstract Studio.
In the new BBC HD TV Channels press release there was additional information on launching regional variants of BBC One HD. Meaning that the regional news studios would have to be in HD and this would be the perfect opportunity.
(Thanks for Reading!)
Studio A
DK
In Canada, one of their stations (Global) has rolled our full virtual green screen sets with totally automated camera peds along with an upside down robotic dolly jib in the ceiling. Opposite the green 'swimming pool' is a real interview/morning set that is designed so that none of the colours can be interpreted as green.
DT
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. VR, particularly BBC VR doesn't look particularly nice, compare Studio C and the VR Version of it, when compared to an original set. In order to save money, the BBC could carry on doing what it currently does with the Regions gradually change them every 5 - 8 years. All ITV does is re-gel the lights and stick a new colour over the front of the desks and sometimes change the colour of the sofa, back in 2002 when the BBC Regions updated they did a similar thing in about half the regions gave it a splash of paint, some new furniture, and did a similar thing in 2008. By 2008 though most of the sets were 8 years old or more and were totally knackered, which is why the began the N6ification of all the regional studios.
Yes when each region is upgraded to HD they will probably get their next set change as well as a Gallery refit and camera upgrade which will cost quite a bit. So I could see how repainting the Studio Green, refitting the studio with VR Technology and limiting the possibilities would be a good idea. Sorry if I come across a bit Muckspreaderish but it's a Sunday Night and I've had 'ideas' on this forum before and have decided it's best to kill of any sense of imagination outside the Gallery within a year and half of joining, much like some members did to me.
SORRY, Night.
Here is something I had been thinking of for a while...
When the ITV National News set changes, the Regional News changes too. However at the BBC this doesn't happen till at least a year or so later. The Beeb is funded by Taxpayers and therefore their budget is smaller than an ITV Budget. A possibly cheaper way of changing the Studios around the Country could be by using Green Screen technology, when they want to change sets it can be easy and cheaper because its a fake backdrop. They could save money particularly in the East by having the Politics Show and Late Kick off in the same studio, hence not needing the external studio space, therefore helping their budget. They also have In-house Graphics Designers in the Broadcasting House Newsroom to help them create new Sets for the Studios. It could be possible for the Sub-Opt out studios (Oxford or Cambridge) to adopt this technology or go for an abstract Studio.
In the new BBC HD TV Channels press release there was additional information on launching regional variants of BBC One HD. Meaning that the regional news studios would have to be in HD and this would be the perfect opportunity.
(Thanks for Reading!)
Studio A
When the ITV National News set changes, the Regional News changes too. However at the BBC this doesn't happen till at least a year or so later. The Beeb is funded by Taxpayers and therefore their budget is smaller than an ITV Budget. A possibly cheaper way of changing the Studios around the Country could be by using Green Screen technology, when they want to change sets it can be easy and cheaper because its a fake backdrop. They could save money particularly in the East by having the Politics Show and Late Kick off in the same studio, hence not needing the external studio space, therefore helping their budget. They also have In-house Graphics Designers in the Broadcasting House Newsroom to help them create new Sets for the Studios. It could be possible for the Sub-Opt out studios (Oxford or Cambridge) to adopt this technology or go for an abstract Studio.
In the new BBC HD TV Channels press release there was additional information on launching regional variants of BBC One HD. Meaning that the regional news studios would have to be in HD and this would be the perfect opportunity.
(Thanks for Reading!)
Studio A
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. VR, particularly BBC VR doesn't look particularly nice, compare Studio C and the VR Version of it, when compared to an original set. In order to save money, the BBC could carry on doing what it currently does with the Regions gradually change them every 5 - 8 years. All ITV does is re-gel the lights and stick a new colour over the front of the desks and sometimes change the colour of the sofa, back in 2002 when the BBC Regions updated they did a similar thing in about half the regions gave it a splash of paint, some new furniture, and did a similar thing in 2008. By 2008 though most of the sets were 8 years old or more and were totally knackered, which is why the began the N6ification of all the regional studios.
Yes when each region is upgraded to HD they will probably get their next set change as well as a Gallery refit and camera upgrade which will cost quite a bit. So I could see how repainting the Studio Green, refitting the studio with VR Technology and limiting the possibilities would be a good idea. Sorry if I come across a bit Muckspreaderish but it's a Sunday Night and I've had 'ideas' on this forum before and have decided it's best to kill of any sense of imagination outside the Gallery within a year and half of joining, much like some members did to me.
SORRY, Night.
CA
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. .
100% this, NO NO NO to VR
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. .
100% this, NO NO NO to VR
OF
Dont worry you wasn't
I agree with you about the Studio C VR, the desk bit looks nice but when they are standing up the screens look horrid.
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Sorry if I come across a bit Muckspreaderish but it's a Sunday Night and I've had 'ideas' on this forum before and have decided it's best to kill of any sense of imagination outside the Gallery within a year and half of joining, much like some members did to me.
SORRY, Night.
SORRY, Night.
Dont worry you wasn't
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Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. VR, particularly BBC VR doesn't look particularly nice, compare Studio C and the VR Version of it, when compared to an original set.
I agree with you about the Studio C VR, the desk bit looks nice but when they are standing up the screens look horrid.
CI
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. .
100% this, NO NO NO to VR
I think you're both off beam here. The BBC virtual set doesn't look that bad. It could look a lot worse, quite easily. VR sets are growing in popularity, especially as you can buy set backdrops surprisingly cheaply. Global TV in Canada is all virtual studios these days for all their news programmes including Global National. I think virtual studios are gonna be the way a lot of broadcasters will go in the next 10-20 years.
Your right, they could shift from a nice real set, to a horrible and surprisingly expensive form of set. .
100% this, NO NO NO to VR
I think you're both off beam here. The BBC virtual set doesn't look that bad. It could look a lot worse, quite easily. VR sets are growing in popularity, especially as you can buy set backdrops surprisingly cheaply. Global TV in Canada is all virtual studios these days for all their news programmes including Global National. I think virtual studios are gonna be the way a lot of broadcasters will go in the next 10-20 years.
DA
Davidjb
Founding member
Interesting to see Huw Edwards interviewing Robert Peston on the 5 O'clock News with Huw in studio C and Peston in an office area which looks like the business unit at NBH. Is it normal for a business reporter etc to not go down to the studio but be interviewed from the corner of the office?
OF
I've seen it plenty of times before
Interesting to see Huw Edwards interviewing Robert Peston on the 5 O'clock News with Huw in studio C and Peston in an office area which looks like the business unit at NBH. Is it normal for a business reporter etc to not go down to the studio but be interviewed from the corner of the office?
I've seen it plenty of times before
SP
Often happens when the reporter is going to be on the NC and World in quick succession, easier for them to do both contributions from the same place.