The Newsroom

BBC National/News Channel from New Broadcasting House

(March 2013)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
GE
thegeek Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
So how does that junction normally work? I'm assuming there's supposed to be a weather forecast where the black and silence was; is that played out through Studio C's gallery (while RedBee play out something different for World) or is the weather live with the weather studio taken directly to air on the network router under automation or via Studio E's gallery?

To be honest, I've rarely paid that much attention - if I'm up at that time of day, it's only ever because I'm at work, and I'm usually entertaining myself by watching Breakfast rehearse. I can tell you though that the overnight weather is normally prerecorded and played from somewhere in NBH - I suspect that usually after that's finished, NC1 take over for the junction on BBC One.
MO
Moz
So, is anyone else a little underwhelmed by how much the move to NBH has improved BBC News?

There seems to be just two presentation points - the desk and the 'wall'. While the newsroom backdrop is lovely, especially when they do DTLs using the screens, it's still very limited.

Would love to see far more from the myriad of presentation areas we were promised. The Five and Nine should come from somewhere either on the newsroom, the balcony, or one of the upper floors. More interviews should take place out in the newsroom (e.g. one presenter reads one story while the other nips into newsroom, package is played, then close up of presenter in newsroom then open up to show their guest).

Let's have a camera on the rail above the windows of Studio E pointing up to the weather area so the presenters can swivel round in their chairs to look out of the window when crossing to the weather, then cut to the shot up to the balcony - just to have some variety from the now very stale, "let's cross the newsroom" trundle cam shot.

More effort please!
AN
all new Phil
I was thinking this myself, and I came to the conclusion that the intention all along was probably not to change the style *too* much. They could have gone for a complete new look and change of style if they had wanted to, but I think this will come further down the line once they are settled in where they are.
CR
Critique
Could I just confirm that one of the posters above is asking for a camera above Studio E, and for the presenters to do a 180 degree turn to face to Weather presenter, for more variety and so on? If so, what a bizarre idea...
DK
DanielK
Would mounting a rail onto the bottom of the hoop and having a camera there be too dangerous?
DO
dosxuk
DanielK posted:
Would mounting a rail onto the bottom of the hoop and having a camera there be too dangerous?


What do you mean by dangerous?

And what sort of shot would you expect to get from a camera rigged there anyway?
BA
bilky asko
Moz posted:
So, is anyone else a little underwhelmed by how much the move to NBH has improved BBC News?

There seems to be just two presentation points - the desk and the 'wall'. While the newsroom backdrop is lovely, especially when they do DTLs using the screens, it's still very limited.

Would love to see far more from the myriad of presentation areas we were promised. The Five and Nine should come from somewhere either on the newsroom, the balcony, or one of the upper floors. More interviews should take place out in the newsroom (e.g. one presenter reads one story while the other nips into newsroom, package is played, then close up of presenter in newsroom then open up to show their guest).

Let's have a camera on the rail above the windows of Studio E pointing up to the weather area so the presenters can swivel round in their chairs to look out of the window when crossing to the weather, then cut to the shot up to the balcony - just to have some variety from the now very stale, "let's cross the newsroom" trundle cam shot.

More effort please!

No, because that would be unnecessary and cheesy, and copying what Sky News did years ago and subsequently dropped. What we have now is great, thanks.
DK
DanielK
dosxuk posted:
DanielK posted:
Would mounting a rail onto the bottom of the hoop and having a camera there be too dangerous?


What do you mean by dangerous?

And what sort of shot would you expect to get from a camera rigged there anyway?


Having a camera dangling by a tiny railing...

Would be an alternative to the trundle cam, allowing the camera not only to pan around the newsroom on the ring, but to pan on the camera head too. This means it could start opposite the trundle cam and track to the studio and then could be used to handover to the weather.
DK
DanielK
If I was designing the trundlecam area, I'd at least have raised the platform it is on, that or put it on a small crane.
MU
Muckspreader
Moz posted:
So, is anyone else a little underwhelmed by how much the move to NBH has improved BBC News?

There seems to be just two presentation points - the desk and the 'wall'. While the newsroom backdrop is lovely, especially when they do DTLs using the screens, it's still very limited.

Would love to see far more from the myriad of presentation areas we were promised. The Five and Nine should come from somewhere either on the newsroom, the balcony, or one of the upper floors. More interviews should take place out in the newsroom (e.g. one presenter reads one story while the other nips into newsroom, package is played, then close up of presenter in newsroom then open up to show their guest).

Let's have a camera on the rail above the windows of Studio E pointing up to the weather area so the presenters can swivel round in their chairs to look out of the window when crossing to the weather, then cut to the shot up to the balcony - just to have some variety from the now very stale, "let's cross the newsroom" trundle cam shot.

More effort please!


One of the most idiotic and childish posts i've ever read on here. And that takes some doing. Well done!

No one promised a "myriad of presentation areas". Only fanatics on here went on about that.

And why should the 5 and 9 be presented from the newsroom? To talk to who? Why? What would it achieve? It would look rubbish, sound rubbish, and be a nightmare to make.

News Channel has a great studio, and it is absolutely fine for a rolling news channel, and the BBC One bulletins.
BA
bazinga
Muckspreader posted:
Moz posted:
So, is anyone else a little underwhelmed by how much the move to NBH has improved BBC News?

There seems to be just two presentation points - the desk and the 'wall'. While the newsroom backdrop is lovely, especially when they do DTLs using the screens, it's still very limited.

Would love to see far more from the myriad of presentation areas we were promised. The Five and Nine should come from somewhere either on the newsroom, the balcony, or one of the upper floors. More interviews should take place out in the newsroom (e.g. one presenter reads one story while the other nips into newsroom, package is played, then close up of presenter in newsroom then open up to show their guest).

Let's have a camera on the rail above the windows of Studio E pointing up to the weather area so the presenters can swivel round in their chairs to look out of the window when crossing to the weather, then cut to the shot up to the balcony - just to have some variety from the now very stale, "let's cross the newsroom" trundle cam shot.

More effort please!


One of the most idiotic and childish posts i've ever read on here. And that takes some doing. Well done!

No one promised a "myriad of presentation areas". Only fanatics on here went on about that.

And why should the 5 and 9 be presented from the newsroom? To talk to who? Why? What would it achieve? It would look rubbish, sound rubbish, and be a nightmare to make.

News Channel has a great studio, and it is absolutely fine for a rolling news channel, and the BBC One bulletins.


MUCKSPREADER , he was only putting his point of view across , there's no need to say 'childish and idiotic' , imo!
MO
Moz
Muckspreader posted:
Moz posted:
So, is anyone else a little underwhelmed by how much the move to NBH has improved BBC News?

There seems to be just two presentation points - the desk and the 'wall'. While the newsroom backdrop is lovely, especially when they do DTLs using the screens, it's still very limited.

Would love to see far more from the myriad of presentation areas we were promised. The Five and Nine should come from somewhere either on the newsroom, the balcony, or one of the upper floors. More interviews should take place out in the newsroom (e.g. one presenter reads one story while the other nips into newsroom, package is played, then close up of presenter in newsroom then open up to show their guest).

Let's have a camera on the rail above the windows of Studio E pointing up to the weather area so the presenters can swivel round in their chairs to look out of the window when crossing to the weather, then cut to the shot up to the balcony - just to have some variety from the now very stale, "let's cross the newsroom" trundle cam shot.

More effort please!


One of the most idiotic and childish posts i've ever read on here. And that takes some doing. Well done!

No one promised a "myriad of presentation areas". Only fanatics on here went on about that.

And why should the 5 and 9 be presented from the newsroom? To talk to who? Why? What would it achieve? It would look rubbish, sound rubbish, and be a nightmare to make.

News Channel has a great studio, and it is absolutely fine for a rolling news channel, and the BBC One bulletins.

I'm fine with you disagreeing with me, it's all a matter of opinion.

I think I'm right in saying that you work for the BBC? Perhaps you're being a little defensive then?

I agree that Studio E is great. Not so sure about Studio C with the newsroom backdrop, and Studio A is just adequate.

All I'm asking for is a bit more creativity. The move to NBH cost an awful lot of money, and all we've really got to show for it is a real newsroom background.

Newer posts