a) Does this mean they're studio will move?
b) If so will they just reassemble it somewhere else
c) If the BBC regions are relaunching, what sort of titles will they use, considering both BBC Midlands and North West Tonight have relaunched or 'refreshed' and yet have a totally different look & feel.
d) do we even know if all the regions will be relaunced? I admit it all looks very messy at the moment, but it seems more likely the regions them selves are deciding whether to relaunch or not.
e) As point C states, the three that have had relaunces or refreshes all have very different studios (although London and North-West both use the same 'baking tray').
Watch out for some changes in the next few months with the BBC London service.
I do not know much about what is happening at the moment but from what I am led to believe they are moving from their current offices.
Really? BBC London's place at MHS was only opened in 2001, although the (tv) technology is a bit creaky I'd be surprised if they were moving any time soon.
It does makes sense in the long term to move to Broadcasting House when the rest of news goes there..
Regional News programmes are not part of BBC News though remember. Points West is part of BBC West, Spotlight BBC South West and so-on. Some (at the moment) endcaps, titles sequences etc. , confusingly perhaps, include the BBC News branding, but that's more a local decision to help brand their programmes rather than indicating an affiliation to the BBC News directorate.
An excellent history of the BBC in London and the South East is atTV & Radio Bits
a) Does this mean they're studio will move?
b) If so will they just reassemble it somewhere else
c) If the BBC regions are relaunching, what sort of titles will they use, considering both BBC Midlands and North West Tonight have relaunched or 'refreshed' and yet have a totally different look & feel.
d) do we even know if all the regions will be relaunced? I admit it all looks very messy at the moment, but it seems more likely the regions them selves are deciding whether to relaunch or not.
e) As point C states, the three that have had relaunces or refreshes all have very different studios (although London and North-West both use the same 'baking tray').
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North West Tonight doesnt have the 'baking tray' although i wish it did because the studio looks empty.
Regional News programmes are not part of BBC News though remember. Points West is part of BBC West, Spotlight BBC South West and so-on. Some (at the moment) endcaps, titles sequences etc. , confusingly perhaps, include the BBC News branding, but that's more a local decision to help brand their programmes rather than indicating an affiliation to the BBC News directorate.
An excellent history of the BBC in London and the South East is atTV & Radio Bits
Well that's not strictly true anymore. BBC News, BBC Sport and BBC Nations and Regions are all part of the wider BBC Journalism so are in fact all controlled overall by Mark Byford - the Deputy DG. So they are all part of the same directorate ... and in fact the public facing name for that is BBC News (rather than BBC Journalism).
Regional News programmes are not part of BBC News though remember. Points West is part of BBC West, Spotlight BBC South West and so-on. Some (at the moment) endcaps, titles sequences etc. , confusingly perhaps, include the BBC News branding, but that's more a local decision to help brand their programmes rather than indicating an affiliation to the BBC News directorate.
An excellent history of the BBC in London and the South East is atTV & Radio Bits
Well that's not strictly true anymore. BBC News, BBC Sport and BBC Nations and Regions are all part of the wider BBC Journalism so are in fact all controlled overall by Mark Byford - the Deputy DG. So they are all part of the same directorate ... and in fact the public facing name for that is BBC News (rather than BBC Journalism).
Well, er... yes - but you could extend that and say they're all part of the BBC! My point was that at the moment BBC News and BBC Nations and Regions are separate entities (albeit within 'BBC Journalism'). I agree they are very closely linked as most regional production is concerned with News and Current Affairs (to use an old fashioned term!).
What I was really trying to say is that there isn't currently a strong departmental or organisational reason for BBC London News as a news programme, to share facilites with the rest of news programmes. As TV & Radio Bits says, it hasn't been made by the national news department since 1989 when Newsroom South East was created. However, the reason the old South East region was based at Elstree was to try and give the programme a less London-based feel (sound familiar? cough ... Salford ... cough ...). Now that the more far flung bits of the old South East Region have been reassigned to Tunbridge Wells and Oxford, and the remaining BBC London region has been created, perhaps there is an increasingly good reason for it to relocate to BH. There is of course a considerable Training base at Marylebone High Street however...
I wouldn't be surprised if BBC London moved into a studio at Broadcasting House when BBC News move in. After all with fewer studios now required for the main BBC News output there might be space for them!
(Bit like the days when Network Current Affairs and South East regional TV both came from Lime Grove... South East at Six and London Plus era)
You're assuming there's more than one person in the gallery at that time of morning!
There'll be more thean one person but a bare minimal number.
Not always - some (many?) regions run Breakfast on a single operator and the presenter. The operator does everything technical (camera, sound, lighting, graphics, vision mix, picture edit etc) and the presenter produces themselves (writing, checking police mesage banks, travel news updates etc., also sometimes picture editing, as well as usually rolling their own autocue).
Some regions may also have some radio personnel in - as well as an engineer - and also towards the end of the morning some of the lunchtime people will be arriving - but the core breakfast staffing working directly on the Breakfast opts can easily be just two people in some regions. (In Norwich in the mid 90s it was 3 and that was with NO automation - as there was a separate picture editor in addition to the presenter and director, after they got rid of the producer and autocue operator role that had previously left the head count at 5. There was also an engineer - but they were shared with Radio Norfolk over the road)
Many regions have used the very low staffing model for Breakfast since it launched regional opts - because most regions had pres desks designed for self-op bulletins, which could easily be used by an operator with a separate camera in another location for the slightly longer Breakfast output (which had VT)
Leeds, famously, had Peter Levy self-oping Breakfast in-vision... (With a VT operator following his script for VT runs, and I guess an SA playing in graphics)
In these days of cost cutting and multi skilling, I'm surprised they aren't bringing back self-oping. Surely all you need is a desk with a lot of buttons with everything in the bulletin as a seperate source
Is it known how many people Peter Levy did have working with him, it'll shatter the illusion as it always seemed like he was totally on his own!
You're assuming there's more than one person in the gallery at that time of morning!
There'll be more thean one person but a bare minimal number.
Not always - some (many?) regions run Breakfast on a single operator and the presenter. The operator does everything technical (camera, sound, lighting, graphics, vision mix, picture edit etc) and the presenter produces themselves (writing, checking police mesage banks, travel news updates etc., also sometimes picture editing, as well as usually rolling their own autocue).
Some regions may also have some radio personnel in - as well as an engineer - and also towards the end of the morning some of the lunchtime people will be arriving - but the core breakfast staffing working directly on the Breakfast opts can easily be just two people in some regions. (In Norwich in the mid 90s it was 3 and that was with NO automation - as there was a separate picture editor in addition to the presenter and director, after they got rid of the producer and autocue operator role that had previously left the head count at 5. There was also an engineer - but they were shared with Radio Norfolk over the road)
Many regions have used the very low staffing model for Breakfast since it launched regional opts - because most regions had pres desks designed for self-op bulletins, which could easily be used by an operator with a separate camera in another location for the slightly longer Breakfast output (which had VT)
Leeds, famously, had Peter Levy self-oping Breakfast in-vision... (With a VT operator following his script for VT runs, and I guess an SA playing in graphics)
In these days of cost cutting and multi skilling, I'm surprised they aren't bringing back self-oping. Surely all you need is a desk with a lot of buttons with everything in the bulletin as a seperate source
Is it known how many people Peter Levy did have working with him, it'll shatter the illusion as it always seemed like he was totally on his own!
I think that the multi-skilling mix has moved, and automation has moved on.
In times gone by there were "presenters" who didn't actually have a huge editorial background, but may have had a more technically savvy grounding (particularly if they were used to driving their own desks in local radio) Additionally, the bulletins were simpler (in the early days most self-op bulletins didn't even include moving pictures) and easier to self-op.
Now that automation is available - and presenters have a journalism background, it is easier to merge the presenter and producer roles (removing the need for a producer) and merge the technical roles into a single multi-skilled director/vision/sound mixer who also does graphics and may, along with the presenter/producer, picture edit new items.
AIUI Peter Levy had a VT operator and, I believe, a graphics operator following him as he self-opped, as well as a producer writing his bulletins?. These days you could get rid of two of those (merge producer and presenter, merge graphics and VT op) AND still not have to self-op.
I notice the end board to BBC London News 6.30 programme now animates on in a poor wipe from the left rather than animating in two pieces, it also looks to be a lightly different size and using Swiss rather than Gill Sans - perhaps these new graphics people were talking about are not far away now.
I notice the end board to BBC London News 6.30 programme now animates on in a poor wipe from the left rather than animating in two pieces, it also looks to be a lightly different size and using Swiss rather than Gill Sans - perhaps these new graphics people were talking about are not far away now.
If they're bringing in new graphics why would London tweak the existing ones??? I think if BBC London does get new graphics it would only be inline with all the other regions...