BBC London

Yep - the BBC London situation is quite different to most other regions - though as you point out many viewers of BBC London TV news are not in the BBC London 94.9 radio region - many BBC Radio Berkshire listeners are also in the BBC London TV region.

Other regions have to include all their various radio stations (Look East's TV region includes BBC Radios Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambs, Northants, 3CR and BBC Essex - though not all radio stations are entirely covered in TV terms)

It was noticable that during the Hemel Hempstead fire coverage on BBC London TV they only cross-trailled BBC London 94.9, whereas I would have though that Three Counties Radio would also have deserved a mention (as there are viewers in the BBC London region who would be 3CR listeners, and I think Buncefield was in the 3CR patch?)

That explains the ITV 4 similarities. Is this a look which is to be adopted in all regions, or just for BBC London?

But BBC LONDON is too London centric. The suburbs hardly ever get a mention unless there is a major breaking news story.

Three days in and i have still not got used to the new look. Infact i think that the new titles exclude all of the suburbs around LONDON. Everything shown so far happens in the city itself.

Newsroom SE was just the same, it just probably didnt notice so m uch as you are not bombarded with the word LONDON everywhere you look, like you are since 2001 when LDN/LONDON started.

Hmm - Newsroom SE and London Plus before didn't feel as overly London-centric (even though London Plus had London its name) - though obviously they covered a much larger non-London patch (as they included the BBC Oxford and BBC South East regions as well - now covered by Oxford/Southampton and Tunbridge Wells)

The real problem for me, as a BBC London TV viewer who doesn't live in London, but does work there, is that I AM interested in a lot of London stories, but I'm also interested in stories outside London, closer to where I live. There are large areas where BBC London is watched outside London (Berkshire, Surrey, Essex, Kent, Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire, Hampshire and Sussex even) - and it is very unusual for any news from these areas to really get mentioned on an average bulletin.

The same accusation can be levelled at London Tonight on ITV as well - it is just that the BBC seemed to do better in the pre-London days - but this was because they had a bigger patch I guess. I'm sure people who live in London think that BBC London is an improvement - those of us outside probably don't.

I am incredibly cheesed off with the constant promotion of only one local radio station though - and the only public transport stories that are ever mentioned are those directly relevant to the capital.

I remember Newsroom SE used to have a token Oxfordshire story.

Yes, Newsroom South East always had one token story from Kent and one from Oxfordshire, and tended to promote Radios Kent and Oxford as well as GLR, but the other parts of the region (ie the area still served by BBC London News) and their local radio stations (SCR, Essex, 3CR and Berkshire) were still ignored as much as they are now.

I wonder if and when this BBC Local TV experiment gets rolled out across the country this could be a saviour for the home counties. Though I do fear that they will base the local tv areas along on the same boundaries as local radio, as they have mostly done with the 'Where I Live' websites, and so we'll end up with something ridiculous like 'BBC Southern Counties TV' rather than 'BBC Surrey TV'.

not necessarily - look at bbc birmingham tv and bbc black country tv

Personally, I don't think that the new theme is bad, but it isn't fantastic and ends badly.

The new on-screen graphics on the other hand, I don't mince my words when I say - NO.
Looks like they've stolen the old BA livery, kiddied up the colours and started flopping it about the screen. The hideous bright orange makes it look awful in juxtaposition with anything else, and it's all just reminiscent of Sky News.

That said, I currently don't expect anything else, as far as I'm concerned BBC studio and ident design - station and news is becoming a complete and utter farce. It hasn't been worth following for some time now, and certainly doesn't reflect well on the BBC.

IMHO.

Bright orange? Is your TV set up correctly?

Does anybody have a clean copy of the BBC London Headline bed before the titles

Just saw the titles over on the other thread and I really like them. Liking the diagonal theme and the horizontal split during the titles.