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BBC Local Radio on Medium Wave

(December 2004)

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tvmercia Founding member
on the subject of the fm/mw splits of the 80s - was xtra am anything to do with beacon or mercia - or was it purely a brmb venture?
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Nick Harvey Founding member
BRMB and Mercia.

After BRMB bought Mercia, but before the split when Capital bought BRMB and Uncle Ralph bought Mercia.
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Isonstine Founding member
It was a "Midland Group Radio" that sort of overhung when Capital, and then GWR took over the group (bar BRMB) - but the AM licence was effecitvely a different licence, but when Capital decided to launch Capital Gold...the GWR stations split from the Xtra service and launched Capital Gold.
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dvboy
Radio Lincolnshire has an MW frequency but it hardly ever differs from the FM broadcast because MW is largly unlistenable in most parts of the county. The only time it does it is if Lincoln City and Boston United are playing football both at the same time.

Most of the other BBC Locals' MW frequencies in the East Midlands and North of England opt out and take the Asian Network in the evening as an alternative to the network programming on FM.
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tvmercia Founding member
which bbc centres produce network radio content outside london apart from birmingham, leicester and manchester?
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Steve in Pudsey
Depends if you count Chris Moyles's trips to Leeds when he's homesick etc.

Slightly strange that one week into the new Leeds building being open both of its studios were being used for network breakfast shows on account of the Leeds festival (Phil Jupitus on 6 Music, Moyles on Radio 1) so the Radio Leeds breakfast show came from Bradford
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Uncle Bruce
tvmercia posted:
which bbc centres produce network radio content outside london apart from birmingham, leicester and manchester?


Bristol does tonnes for Radio 4.
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Spencer
Inspector Sands posted:
Yes, the IBA ran a 'use it or lose it' policy at teh end of the 80's. ALl the ILRs had a MW and FM frequency which was deemed a waste and they all - with a few exceptions - split into 2 stations. Hence Capital Gold and Capital FM and the like. There were a few stations who didn't split - Devonair lost its license to Gemini and LBC (who did split, but only during the day) lost its to London News Radio


The Home Office did also begin a policy of removing Medium Wave frequencies from BBC Local Radio stations in the early 90s and giving them to the commercial sector. Radio Gloucestershire's 603AM frequency was one of the first to go despite the fact that almost half the county couldn't receive the station on FM.

In the end the government didn't see this policy through, and so a large number of BBC LR stations still have Medium Wave frequencies. In the case of Radio Gloucestershire, a few years ago they were actually given back a new medium wave frequency to improve coverage.
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Uncle Bruce
... and ironically got a better frequency and transmitter.

The 603 racecourse transmitter was, to be frank, dreadful.
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Spencer
Uncle Bruce posted:
... and ironically got a better frequency and transmitter.

The 603 racecourse transmitter was, to be frank, dreadful.


It always seemed quite powerful to me. I once picked it up on the Welsh coast near Aberystwyth. Having said that I've picked up 1413 loud and clear in Leeds despite Fresh Radio broadcasting on the same frequency just down the road in Skipton. Does anyone know why BBC LR Medium Wave transmitters are so unnecessarily powerful?
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Uncle Bruce
603 stank - I could barely get it in Cirencester at the time.

Not all BBC LR medium waves are 'overpowered' - take Somerset Sound, for example. You can't get it over the whole county, and it goes especially bad after dark - Even since they changed frequencies.

Admittedly 1413 is pretty strong, though.
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Mark Smith
BBC Radio Suffolk launched in 1990 with two FM transmitters, and a futher two have been added since then, but it's never had an AM transmitter.

Also, I'm not sure if Orwell and Saxon (now SGR FM) ever had AM frequencies. If they did they're probably being used now by Classic Gold Amber. Both SGR and Amber use Foxhall Heath and Great Barton transmitters, and Radio Suffolk uses Great Barton too.

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