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BBC Election 2019 with Talkback

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RK
Rkolsen World News
I just tweeted with mediaboy and he said he knew only 5 seconds to air.

I am quite surprised at the secrecy. Thought journalists or the ones working on the broadcast would be trusted enough not to release the data on air until 10PM. I can understand not telling the on air people as they could screw up and say something.
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MI
m_in_m Anglia (East) Look East
I just tweeted with mediaboy and he said he knew only 5 seconds to air.

I am quite surprised at the secrecy. Thought journalists or the ones working on the broadcast would be trusted enough not to release the data on air until 10PM. I can understand not telling the on air people as they could screw up and say something.

Is it more ensuring nothing inadvertently slips to air? The fewer people know the less chance of something happening. Something as simple as a handwritten note with the numbers on that a camera accidentally picks up could have huge repercussions.
TI
timbouk
In Nick Robinson’s Book he talks about a select few being in a meeting room to get the exit poll results as they stood. These included him, David Dimbleby, Jeremy Vine and the election night editor.
OM
Omnipresent London London
I can't remember which election it was, but I have a vague recollection that on one election night, Andrew Marr was reported to have texted a politician about the exit poll result before it was officially released.
DT
DTV Meridian (South) South Today
Having been a student of some of the professors who work on the exit poll, I have been reliably informed that at recent elections they have had their phones conviscated at the start of the day and are escorted when leaving the room where the exit poll work is being calculated so as to ensure they do not communicate the data with anybody. Security is very high.

The exit poll headlines are finalised at about 2130 (unless the late data shows something radically different) and senior journalists are told not long after that. I believe all the exit poll work is done at the BBC, and the other network's psephologists do not leave the BBC until very close to broadcast.

I can't remember which election it was, but I have a vague recollection that on one election night, Andrew Marr was reported to have texted a politician about the exit poll result before it was officially released.


This was 2017. Marr is alleged to have called Conservative advisers shortly before broadcast to get a response (although he claims it was mere seconds before 2200). However, other sources have claimed that the Conservatives were informed at least 15 minutes in advance and some have even suggested that Labour had received a leak at around 2000.
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OC
Otis Crump
They do take it seriously.





Surprising to me. I’d assume journalists would be trusted. If the people in the gallery know ahead of time what’s what enough to build graphics and the script why shouldn’t Huw and the others know?


I thought a small number of people, including the presenter, get the exit poll info at 9pm ish.

...I think there's reference to this in one of Nick Robinson's books.

...And, indeed, a reference to that a few posts above.
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IS
Inspector Sands
DTV posted:
Fascinating. Interesting (and understandable) that most of the pre-10pm section was recorded. Seamlessly back to live just before 10.


I knew that parts of the sequence were pre-recorded - as its physically impossible to get from the different parts of NBH as quickly as Huw did - but I assumed that the studio bits were live. I suppose its largely in the interests of timing and smoothness. That sequence is so necessarily timed to end on the bong of Big Ben and a presenter mincing their words could screw up the whole opening section (and it also isn't a great look for a marathon TV programme if your presenters are messing up that early).

It's also the last and only bit that can be recorded - after 10pm they have an exit poll and so all the content is based on that
DE
deejay Oxford
It’s worth bearing in mind as well that it is illegal in the U.K. to report an opinion poll while voting is taking place and the polling stations do not officially close until 2200. That’s why on polling day, there is almost no coverage in news programmes, online or on social media other than very dull, factual lines like “The polls are open and the Prime Minister arrived a short time ago at xxxx to cast his/her ballot”. Hiding studio screens, keeping those who have the information to the bare minimum, not putting it on graphics outputs, not projecting it onto the front of BH - all very sensible!
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SP
Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Keeping it on a need to know basis helps to avoid tabloid headlines - potentially if the exit poll predicted a shock result somebody in the know before it's announced could benefit via a Bookie's mobile app. The papers would have a field day if that happened and got out.
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CO
commseng London London
It’s worth bearing in mind as well that it is illegal in the U.K. to report an opinion poll while voting is taking place and the polling stations do not officially close until 2200. That’s why on polling day, there is almost no coverage in news programmes, online or on social media other than very dull, factual lines like “The polls are open and the Prime Minister arrived a short time ago at xxxx to cast his/her ballot”. Hiding studio screens, keeping those who have the information to the bare minimum, not putting it on graphics outputs, not projecting it onto the front of BH - all very sensible!

I warmly embrace those days where there can be no political reports, especially when on the lead up to any General Election there have been wall to wall reports of the "he said, she said" type for months on end. When this came on the back of the continuous Brexit story (twhich has rumbled on now for almost five years), viewer and listener fatigue does kick in.

I'm at an age where I do shout at the TV and radio now, in a Victor Meldrew style. It's usually when the same point is raised yet again.
The US Election - has that finished yet? How long before the speculation on the next leader of their parties begins?

I know it is all important stuff, but it does seem sometimes to be saturation coverage to the exclusion of everything else happening in the world.
ME
mediaman2007
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AlfieMulcahy Meridian (South East) South East Today
Tom Bradby gave an interview last year saying he got the results 15-20 minutes before they went on air.
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