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A former member
It wasn't Wink

What I actually mean is that exit poll is pointless, unless it goes to over 300 seats including 56 Scottish seats, 150 margin in England AND the 10 seats UKIP are going after.


Not at all, psephologists everywhere agree on the reasoning and compilation, AND crucially their historic accuracy is uncanny. A properly weighted sampling, for age, region and social class is going to get damn close to the outcome. The one 'joker' in the pack, is personality politics, the effect of which is restricted to a very few seats indeed.


I'll give them there dues there were spot on in 2010, but there were out in 1992. Problem is there is too many jokers in the packer this year. I just get the feeling you may have under estimated personality politics: UKIP, SNP. Then you have Tact voting, so there can really say how people will be like unless there in that seat.

Of course logical there would end up going those seats in the first place.
DV
DVB Cornwall
1992 has been dissected at length and the error explained, that's why I used the 'properly weighted' descriptor. Exit poll accuracy in the 1979, 1983, 1987, 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010 polls has been more or less spot on.

As for personality politics there are only two in the current parliament defying the polls, Galloway and Lucas. Maybe add Farage into the mix for 2015 and that's it. There are regional populist members, yes, who attract cross party support but these are reducing as each election passes. Indeed the one in Cornwall, Andrew George is by some accounts likely to fall in May.
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A former member
1992 has been dissected at length and the error explained, that's why I used the 'properly weighted' descriptor. Exit poll accuracy in the 1979, 1983, 1987, 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010 polls has been more or less spot on.

As for personality politics there are only two in the current parliament defying the polls, Galloway and Lucas. Maybe add Farage into the mix for 2015 and that's it. There are regional populist members, yes, who attract cross party support but these are reducing as each election passes. Indeed the one in Cornwall, Andrew George is by some accounts likely to fall in May.


Unless the exit polls are held in those seats with the biggest ? it will not be possible for them to get the correct answers
MI
Michael
Having seen Rick Wakeman live a few times, I can report that according to him, apparently the BBC wanted Rick Wakeman to pay for the privilege of the use of Arthur as the theme tune. He cheerfully declined the offer.

The BBC 1997 re-record has appeared on YouTube as part of their music collection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1QLlam9Yds

2005 appeared to be a further re-record / rearrangement but I don't think it was released on one of Rick's albums like Election 97 was. In 2005 there was also a 5-minute background track (again suspiciously sounds Rick-esque) between programme start and exit poll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUwO4LAJLs
TI
tightrope78
1992 has been dissected at length and the error explained, that's why I used the 'properly weighted' descriptor. Exit poll accuracy in the 1979, 1983, 1987, 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010 polls has been more or less spot on.

As for personality politics there are only two in the current parliament defying the polls, Galloway and Lucas. Maybe add Farage into the mix for 2015 and that's it. There are regional populist members, yes, who attract cross party support but these are reducing as each election passes. Indeed the one in Cornwall, Andrew George is by some accounts likely to fall in May.


The BBC exit poll from 1987 is generally considered to be as wrong as that from 1992. Whilst obviously there was going to be a Conservative government returned the exit poll differed greatly from the actual result. The exit poll predicted a Tory majority of 26 compared with a real majority of 102.

1987
% Share: Con 40% Lab 35% All 23% Oth 2%
Seats: Con 338 Lab 261 All 26 Oth 25

Actual Share: Con 42% Lab 31% All 23% Oth 4%
Seats: Con 376 Lab 229 All 22 Oth 23

Error Share: Con -2% Lab +4% All 0% Oth -2%
Error Seats: Con -38 Lab +32 All +4 Oth +2

But yes, the Exit Polls are so much more reliable than people tend to think they are.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=47437.0
FA
fanoftv

I thought the crescendo into the exit poll was magnificent.


I especially like the man sat at the bottom right pf the video wall who gestures his hand with the crescendo (see 5:15-5:20 in the video)

LJ
Live at five with Jeremy
Wow, just watched that video and realised how accurate the exit poll was in 2010. Think I might just go to bed at 10:01pm this time round!
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A former member

But yes, the Exit Polls are so much more reliable than people tend to think they are.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=47437.0


But of course there only deal with uniform swings.
DA
davidhorman

Not at all, psephologists everywhere agree on the reasoning and compilation, AND crucially their historic accuracy is uncanny. A properly weighted sampling, for age, region and social class is going to get damn close to the outcome.

As I recall from a discussion about BARB viewing figures, when the total population is large enough it takes a surprisingly small sample to give yourself a surprising good chance of getting surprisingly close to the truth.
GE
thegeek Founding member
The Election 2015 opening titles are just MAGNIFICENT - and the new opening sequence, up to 2200 and the Exit Poll, is going to be the best you have EVER seen Wink

Ooh, I'm looking forward to that. It'll definitely be on the biggest telly in our living room.

The closing sequence from 2010 gives me shivers too - parts of the montage feel like they belong in a film, aided by the epic music and sweeping shots. Any idea who paid for the steadicam and jib in Downing Street? Presumably they were pooled.
MD
mdtauk
The Election 2015 opening titles are just MAGNIFICENT - and the new opening sequence, up to 2200 and the Exit Poll, is going to be the best you have EVER seen Wink

I look forward to seeing them. And then seeing them on YouTube with the Arthur Music overlayed on it Very Happy
MW
Mike W
This is what they used in 2010.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3a1gBHfSA

As much as I like Arthur, I thought that whole sequence with 5 minutes of bed to introduce the programme worked pretty well.


I thought the crescendo into the exit poll was magnificent.

The titles though kind of fell apart halfway through, not helped I think by the holding title slide at the end being on too long with the music peaking and finishing. Music is great though.

The Election 2015 opening titles are just MAGNIFICENT - and the new opening sequence, up to 2200 and the Exit Poll, is going to be the best you have EVER seen Wink


Oh dear.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1976792/BBC%20Election%202010%203%2700.mp3
It's pretty awesome!
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