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AaronLancs 2 June 2018 2:38pm

It looks better when North West Tonight are in there.

I'm amazed they are sticking with that awful set, it's completely different from any other BBC News set and has never looked nice on screen. Honestly, even what Look Leeds now has would be far better than the current one.

I'm hopeful there may be some new backdrops and set lighting at least because as you say, it does look better (still not good) for NWT.

And hopefully James Mobbs and co can adapt something for us in the North West eventually. We got the studio first as I mentioned once before.

AN

all new Phil 2 June 2018 5:07pm

mdtauk posted:

Can't help but feel this can't be beat with an early morning feel, and simplicity and freshness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz2bI13IzE

The music feels almost like a gentle alarm clock, and even the set had a nice friendly feel.

That set looked like the waiting room of a Dignitas clinic to be honest.

RA

radiolistener 2 June 2018 5:41pm

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

LS

Lou Scannon 2 June 2018 5:47pm

all new Phil posted:

mdtauk posted:

Can't help but feel this can't be beat with an early morning feel, and simplicity and freshness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjz2bI13IzE

The music feels almost like a gentle alarm clock, and even the set had a nice friendly feel.

That set looked like the waiting room of a Dignitas clinic to be honest.

I seem to recall that Jeremy Bowen himself famously described it (in a newspaper/magazine interview) as being like "an Albanian dentist's waiting room", or something like that.

DK

DanielK 2 June 2018 5:49pm

radiolistener posted:

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If someone is a good presenter, they don’t look uncomfortable usually.

The ‘Elstree Triangle’ is a method used - I believe that is the name...

BR

Brekkie 2 June 2018 5:53pm

Stuart posted:

DrewF posted:

I'm hopeful there may be some new backdrops and set lighting at least because as you say, it does look better (still not good) for NWT.

It's a versatile set, and serves its many purposes, but blimey . . . there comes a time!

I concur that it no longer matches any of the NBH-style sets used in the regions, so even BBC NW must be hankering after something new.

I guess we'll all be disappointed soon enough. **sobs**

So annoying they have a perfect modern set on site which needs minimal changes to be suitable for Breakfast (literally obscuring a couple of BBC Sport signs), and a set that is virtually unused at that time of day. BBC Sport have a perfectly decent second studio for any World News sports bulletins.

They should have claimed squatters rights after the Olympics.

NG

noggin Founding member 2 June 2018 5:53pm

DanielK posted:

radiolistener posted:

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If someone is a good presenter, they don’t look uncomfortable usually.

The ‘Elstree Triangle’ is a method used - I believe that is the name...

The Elstree triangle is what people who aren't that comfortable on a two shot are best taught to do. It was named after Newsroom South East's double-headed presentation.

The triangle = Look to camera, look at co-presenter, look at script on-desk. And repeat.

It avoids the staring into camera reading your co-presenter's prompt issue. However is a bit of a trope...

MI

m_in_m 2 June 2018 5:55pm

Brekkie posted:

Stuart posted:

DrewF posted:

I'm hopeful there may be some new backdrops and set lighting at least because as you say, it does look better (still not good) for NWT.

It's a versatile set, and serves its many purposes, but blimey . . . there comes a time!

I concur that it no longer matches any of the NBH-style sets used in the regions, so even BBC NW must be hankering after something new.

I guess we'll all be disappointed soon enough. **sobs**

So annoying they have a perfect modern set on site which needs minimal changes to be suitable for Breakfast (literally obscuring a couple of BBC Sport signs), and a set that is virtually unused at that time of day. BBC Sport have a perfectly decent second studio for any World News sports bulletins.

They should have claimed squatters rights after the Olympics.

Is that studio big enough to handle the entire programme though? I don't recall them having full news, sport and business bulletins during the Olympics. Also what would they do items that use the far end of the studio which doesn't have screens?

VM

VMPhil 2 June 2018 6:15pm

noggin posted:

DanielK posted:

radiolistener posted:

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If someone is a good presenter, they don’t look uncomfortable usually.

The ‘Elstree Triangle’ is a method used - I believe that is the name...

The Elstree triangle is what people who aren't that comfortable on a two shot are best taught to do. It was named after Newsroom South East's double-headed presentation.

The triangle = Look to camera, look at co-presenter, look at script on-desk. And repeat.

It avoids the staring into camera reading your co-presenter's prompt issue. However is a bit of a trope...

Once you notice the Elstree triangle, you won't be able to unsee it…

LS

Lou Scannon 2 June 2018 7:06pm

Newsroom South East from Elstree can't possibly have been the first/only thing in the whole history of television with the "idle" co-presenter in a two-shot doing the triangluar head movement thing, surely? So, why is the habit specifically named after that programme?

MD

mdtauk 2 June 2018 7:15pm

radiolistener posted:

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If the director is minded, and the presenters have chemistry - there could be playful and interesting interaction between them, making the show feel lighter and more welcoming. (That's how I see it anyway)

RA

radiolistener 2 June 2018 7:21pm

mdtauk posted:

radiolistener posted:

I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If the director is minded, and the presenters have chemistry - there could be playful and interesting interaction between them, making the show feel lighter and more welcoming. (That's how I see it anyway)

Do you really want light and welcoming though when discussing wars or unemployment figures?

(Another way of saying light and welcoming is dumbed down and stupid, tbh.)

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