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From 6am (April 2012)

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JA
Jaxford
chris posted:
There is some rubbish being spoken by viewers on Newswatch tonight regarding Breakfast in Salford. I can see absolutely no change in the programme bar the set, and I bet if the BBC hadn't told anybody they were moving, they would have been none the wiser. The viewers they've got on here are talking about Breakfast becoming a 'regional' programme because it's from Salford...where do they get these people from??

And as I was writing that, the best from one lady: "I think Sian Williams was much more serious than the new presenters. I just don't think they're good enough, with the exception of Bill Turnbull and Charlie Stayt." None of them are new presenters, and she's just said that half of them are at least just as good as Sian...


Those comments are so stupid. All things considered the move to Salford has been very successful. Yes the set is a bit small and the backdrop looks terrible, but the concept remains the same. People who watched Breakfast when it was down in London still watch it when it's up in Salford. Nobody could watch Daybreak over this.

What she said about the presenters make no sense. They all have lots of experience presenting Breakfast and the team is stronger than ever.
AC
aconnell
Admittely, I think that the current era of Breakfast in Salford is the best it has been for me at least for the many different reasons you have stated above.

I'd really love to see the complete mailbox of Newswatch to see what doesn't get aired on the programme!
TV
TVnut15
As far as I'm concerned the only problem is the up close camera shots of the presenters and the unfamiliarity of the presenter pairings. The presenters will become more familiar with time and the camera shots can easily be rectified once the team start to settle into their new home.

As for the set, yes it's small but it is still easily big enough for what the programme needs to do: a sofa for interviews and an alternative area to do business and music acts. If it was bigger and unused then it would only be more expensive and cause more controversy.

I agree with the above, few would have noticed the changes to the titles, backdrop or set even if it had not been pointed out. Breakfast will do just fine with time.
AC
aconnell
Jon Kay on Breakfast sofa in Salford very soon! He's really great - especially with Susanna! Definitely the next Bill Turnbull Very Happy
NG
noggin Founding member
Jonny posted:

I take it the 'fake' Breakfast clock and 'Press Red' were designed by the same person who insists on using knock off BBC News logos across the network up until recently.

Fake real news graphics within TV series are deliberately designed slightly off so people don't randomly tune in and assume the entire eastern seaboard of the United States has been obliterated or whatever.


The rule used to be that you could use real presenters with fake graphics, or fake presenters with real graphics, but not real presenters with real graphics. However I think that this was relaxed a while back when Spooks switched to Sky News for a season?

The main reason for graphics being 'off' these days is that they are usually done by someone other than news in an edit - and they never quite get them right.

(Joanna Gosling appeared on the BBC One network set with genuine BBC News graphics - albeit used slightly differently to normal - in a Norwegian film 'Ulvenatten' - believe it or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzUEC3GnI8 44 seconds in shows a brief clip that made the trailer... It's a truly dreadful film)
WE
Westy2
Interesting to note on Newswatch that Breakfast in London was referenced as sharing Newswatch's studio.
(The only other occasion referencing studio sharing in the past as far as I know, was after an edition of Newsnight, they went to swop the NN sofa for the Breakfast sofa, but they couldn't get into the storage area, so Breakfast went on air with the purple NN sofa instead of the usual red one!)

When the comments started mentioning about the Salford studio, nobody mentioned NWT & Breakfast now shared a studio!
AC
aconnell
The coverage the programme gave undermined the overall success of the move to Salford, I found. The two viewers who featured just seemed to waste their time by repeating the boring 'why move to Salford' line of questioning.

Plus, there haven't been that many DTL interviews. I've found, particularly in the business coverage, that the range and quality of guests coming up to Salford to be of a very high standard. Also, they call it a news programme, but in reality Breakfast covers a range of other items. It's more of a magazine programme.

Yawn.

However, it's good to hear that the deputy editor pointed out the fact that the team in Salford are still being accustomed to their surroundings and the technical side of things. I can hope for more exciting opt out/opt in shots to the sort we saw in the closing weeks in TC7.
MW
Mike W
I can hope for more exciting opt out/opt in shots to the sort we saw in the closing weeks in TC7.


You won't get though, with a ceiling height of 9 feet and a grid depth of 1 foot, you've not got much room to move - it is just an office with a heavier door.
AC
aconnell
Well, I mean just in the respect of more variety of shots, so perhaps having the other cameras in shot, or using the area to the right of the sofa, I know the constraints of the new studio, I just mean a but of experimentation for what they physically can do.
AC
aconnell
Can I have someone on standby to record tomorrow's Breakfast? I really don't want to miss Roger & Fiona. It could go amazingly well or very wrong. I'm not sure yet, but not worried at all for Fiona. She'll ace it. It's Roger I'm worried about.

Who knows what sorts of pairings we'll see in this slot in the months and years to come? Do you think they'll settle on one pairing or will it be random each week?

PS: Will try to set PC recorder for this morning. Fingers crossed it will work.
Last edited by aconnell on 28 April 2012 11:20pm
BA
bilky asko

(Joanna Gosling appeared on the BBC One network set with genuine BBC News graphics - albeit used slightly differently to normal - in a Norwegian film 'Ulvenatten' - believe it or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzUEC3GnI8 44 seconds in shows a brief clip that made the trailer... It's a truly dreadful film)


Slightly changing the graphics seems to count as fake graphics - I seem to remember that Top Gear has done it a few times.
DF
DrewF
Can I have someone on standby to record tomorrow's Breakfast? I really don't want to miss Roger & Fiona. It could go amazingly well or very wrong. I'm not sure yet, but not worried at all for Fiona. She'll ace it. It's Roger I'm worried about.

Who knows what sorts of pairings we'll see in this slot in the months and years to come? Do you think they'll settle on one pairing or will it be random each week?

PS: Will try to set PC recorder for this morning. Fingers crossed it will work.


I am going to do it, setting it for 6am to record for the hour, but I'd appreciate you doing it as backup because mine doesn't always work smoothly!

I really think Fiona will be great at it - look forward to seeing how she does very much. Roger I think will be pretty dull, as he normally is.

I hope we'll see more of Fiona too - as she lives in Scotland, it's obviously easier for her to get to Salford than it is to London so she might be more likely to be used as cover. I think that might be why she is being tried out tomorrow.

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