Presumably cutting back to the OS line is just as easy as whatever caused them to cut to the studio camera in the first place.
The fact it's in one of the screens at the back isn't relevant to the error, that's just how they normally cross to and from the weather presenter, as is seen at the end of the forecast. They'll put it in the screen for the whole forecast because there's no point in taking it off
Some satellite link troubles this morning it would seem - Matt Taylor is on location for the weather but there was no summary at the top of the hour and a recorded forecast was played at 6:20.
Some satellite link troubles this morning it would seem - Matt Taylor is on location for the weather but there was no summary at the top of the hour and a recorded forecast was played at 6:20.
Surely they could have run the forecast without Matt’s commentary. I doubt the server is in the OB van. They could have let it just run normally while saying they were having signal trouble. Or a presenter could have read it or give a semi decent summary quickly.
The maps aren’t that complicated to comprehend it they were they wouldn’t make it to air. In the US there have been moments where the main meteorologist was suddenly unavailable or the anchor decided to try.
Does Look North (or whatever region shares the studio) have a meteorologist onsite in the AM? Maybe they should have them nearby when they do OBs.
Some satellite link troubles this morning it would seem - Matt Taylor is on location for the weather but there was no summary at the top of the hour and a recorded forecast was played at 6:20.
Surely they could have run the forecast without Matt’s commentary. I doubt the server is in the OB van. They could have let it just run normally while saying they were having signal trouble. Or a presenter could have read it or give a semi decent summary quickly.
The graphics will be rendered in London I suspect (which is where the Breakfast weather presenter is based, rather than Salford, where Breakfast are based), and fed up the normal weather circuits (just without a presenter keyed over them)
They wouldn't have run the graphics mute, and they wouldn't have got a non-meteorologist to 'make it up'...
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The maps aren’t that complicated to comprehend it they were they wouldn’t make it to air. In the US there have been moments where the main meteorologist was suddenly unavailable or the anchor decided to try.
The weather bulletins are un-scripted - so there isn't a script for a presenter to read, and you aren't just reading out what the graphics on-screen say, you are explaining why the weather is doing what it is doing.
I think the decision would be (and was) taken that dropping the forecast is better than doing a bad job.
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Does Look North (or whatever region shares the studio) have a meteorologist onsite in the AM? Maybe they should have them nearby when they do OBs.
I suspect North West Tonight (the local show based in Salford) run recorded weather bulletins during Breakfast, after all their main studio is on-air with... Breakfast... (The three Look Norths are based in Leeds, Hull and Newcastle)
What I don't know is if there is a second weather presenter on duty in London for radio and other duties at that time of the morning if Matt is on location. They could have been scrambled IF it didn't clash with their other on-air duties I guess.
Some satellite link troubles this morning it would seem - Matt Taylor is on location for the weather but there was no summary at the top of the hour and a recorded forecast was played at 6:20.
Surely they could have run the forecast without Matt’s commentary. I doubt the server is in the OB van. They could have let it just run normally while saying they were having signal trouble. Or a presenter could have read it or give a semi decent summary quickly.
The graphics will be rendered in London I suspect (which is where the Breakfast weather presenter is based, rather than Salford, where Breakfast are based), and fed up the normal weather circuits (just without a presenter keyed over them)
They wouldn't have run the graphics mute, and they wouldn't have got a non-meteorologist to 'make it up'...
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The maps aren’t that complicated to comprehend it they were they wouldn’t make it to air. In the US there have been moments where the main meteorologist was suddenly unavailable or the anchor decided to try.
The weather bulletins are un-scripted - so there isn't a script for a presenter to read, and you aren't just reading out what the graphics on-screen say, you are explaining why the weather is doing what it is doing.
I think the decision would be (and was) taken that dropping the forecast is better than doing a bad job.
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Does Look North (or whatever region shares the studio) have a meteorologist onsite in the AM? Maybe they should have them nearby when they do OBs.
I suspect North West Tonight (the local show based in Salford) run recorded weather bulletins during Breakfast, after all their main studio is on-air with... Breakfast... (The three Look Norths are based in Leeds, Hull and Newcastle)
What I don't know is if there is a second weather presenter on duty in London for radio and other duties at that time of the morning if Matt is on location. They could have been scrambled IF it didn't clash with their other on-air duties I guess.
I realize the forecast is unscripted. But surely one of presenters could have figured it out or read directly from what’s on screen. It’s not exactly rocket science to do at the last minute. Not like they were asked to do their own maths for the forecast.
If the forecast is like this but goes around the country in depth with detailed temperatures a presenter could have read it. Start out with something like “Heavyshowers heading towards Northern Ireland around 1PM affecting the western most portion of Wales through 6PM”.
Mildest day of the week today. Brightest in the east ...gales and occasional rain in the west. Here are the details ...@bbcbreakfastpic.twitter.com/aJvyWPCa4C
And it's not like there isn't a broadcast forecaster to step in either.
Darren Bett did the pre-recorded forecast (the 6.17 one) I assume he was the duty BBC World Forecaster, so was able to do a quick 45 second for Breakfast.
Stav Denaos was the Radio Four weather forecaster today, so if it all failed with the ob, they could do what they usually do on Saturdays - pre-rec the TOH trail for breakfast, then do the forecasts live at 15/45 past on TV and then 27/57 past audio forecasts into Today on R4.
They'd still need something to read from, it would sound awful if one of the presenters was just making it up on the fly based on what they could see on the map.
For the bulletins on BBC1 and 2 they send a script to the channel announcer so they can read that over a slide if the bulletin doesn't happen. I don't know if there's the same policy for Breakfast
They'd still need something to read from, it would sound awful if one of the presenters was just making it up on the fly based on what they could see on the map.
For the bulletins on BBC1 and 2 they send a script to the channel announcer so they can read that over a slide if the bulletin doesn't happen. I don't know if there's the same policy for Breakfast
They would explain what happened and a last minute technical mess up. If the presenter can see the map they should be able to handle it. Treat it like a breaking news situation where things are fluid and not much is known.
They'd still need something to read from, it would sound awful if one of the presenters was just making it up on the fly based on what they could see on the map.
For the bulletins on BBC1 and 2 they send a script to the channel announcer so they can read that over a slide if the bulletin doesn't happen. I don't know if there's the same policy for Breakfast
They would explain what happened and a last minute technical mess up. If the presenter can see the map they should be able to handle it. Treat it like a breaking news situation where things are fluid and not much is known.
Except it's not breaking news - and you don't treat weather as 'not much is known'.
I think on a show that does weather regularly, dropping the forecast rather than a general presenter making it up was the better choice. Broadcast forecasters aren't just 'say what you see' robots...
Wonder what the gallery was doing and didn’t spot it quickly enough. Could it take a while for them to punch up an OS (assuming the forecast was from London) in the Mosart panel vs quickly pressing a button on the switcher?
It was onscreen for a decent amount of time. I’ve seen in the US slates (I assume they’re used because in a news program you could have a dozen packages and want to play the right one) for packages briefly appear on screen or an onset monitor and they are only on air for a split second before they return to either the studio to continue introducing the package or a graphic.
Breakfast has a vision mixer (in US terms - TD) - Mon-Fri - and only uses Mosart as a server Playout and graphics system - not for remote control of the vision mixer/switcher.
If they were using full Mosart - there is still no massively increased significant delay in using your Mosart touch screen or hard panel vs pressing the button on the switcher (it's frames, not seconds)
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Stav Denaos was the Radio Four weather forecaster today, so if it all failed with the ob, they could do what they usually do on Saturdays - pre-rec the TOH trail for breakfast, then do the forecasts live at 15/45 past on TV and then 27/57 past audio forecasts into Today on R4.
I didn't realise the TOTH was recorded. I assumed it was live hence why Breakfast at the weekend often runs about a minute late for the start of the hour.
For the bulletins on BBC1 and 2 they send a script to the channel announcer so they can read that over a slide if the bulletin doesn't happen. I don't know if there's the same policy for Breakfast
When the weather failed the other week (shortly after the provider switch) it didn't seem like the continuity announcer was prepared with a script.
Does Look North (or whatever region shares the studio) have a meteorologist onsite in the AM? Maybe they should have them nearby when they do OBs.
Simon King is based in Salford for 5 Live and 6 Music breakfast. He also now provides the morning news channel forecasts. I imagine though the shift is perhaps too busy to cover Breakfast at the last minute.