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Custard56 29 March 2016 9:48am

I think Jay Lee's point was to note the different approaches of Breakfast compared to GMB. By which I mean that Breakfast's main anchors (who happen to be Dan & Naga today) are handling the breaking news, whereas GMB's main anchors (Kate & Jeremy) are largely taking a back seat for the breaking story in favour of the "news round up" presenter (Charlotte) handling it.

Of course, that's because BBC Breakfast doesn't have the (IMHO rather pointless) extra "newsreader" role. The main Breakfast anchors handle all the main news (breaking or otherwise), as there isn't anyone else. The other presenters who pop in for certain bits of the programme are there to handle e.g. business or sport specifically, as opposed to the "proper news". That said, sometimes the sport/business person will (at least partially) handle a breaking story, if it happens to be sport/business related.

Why ITV breakfast (right back to at least the GMTV days) has a tertiary presenter in addition to the main anchor duo, to basically just do the headline summaries and precious little else, has always been beyond me.

Yes, that was the reason I posted it. Sorry if it offends anyone who may be a GMB fan (I know there are many here).

To follow Austin Tatious's point, it's interesting to note that the BBC did have Moira Stewart doing the tertiary news reader role ("News 24 Briefing") alongside the two main anchors on BBC Breakfast when it first launched back in 2000. Sensibly, they dispensed with it soon afterwards (much as Moira Stewart is a legend).

I don't remember it being that soon. I recal seeing Moira and Rob Bonnet present during the Natasha and Dermot era.

I wouldn't know the precise time this happened so you are probably right - "soon" is an unhelpful exaggeration. Apologies.

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itsrobert Founding member 29 March 2016 10:29am

I'm pretty sure fanoftv is correct in that the additional newsreader role was axed when the main news desk came back - this would have been in May 2006 if memory serves me correctly. Initially, Moira Stuart read the news summaries Mon-Thu with Asad Ahmad on Fridays. I do recall a reporter/presenter called Emma Howard standing in occasionally, but I don't know what happened to her. Shortly afterwards, Asad Ahmad left the programme (possibly to move to BBC LDN?) and was replaced by Kate Sanderson. Eventually, the newsreader (and I think Rob Bonnet) role was expanded to include presenting the first half hour / hour (?) of the programme before Dermot and Natasha took over. As of 2006, the role was abolished and the main presenters took over all presenting duties.

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Custard56 29 March 2016 10:49am

Easter Monday ratings:

BBC Breakfast 1.1m (39%)
Good Morning Britain 340,000 (11%)

SK

Skygeek 29 March 2016 11:01am

Jay Lee posted:

Easter Monday ratings:

BBC Breakfast 1.1m (39%)
Good Morning Britain 340,000 (11%)

Hmm... I wonder what could've alienated half of GMB's usual audience?

HC

Hatton Cross 29 March 2016 11:04am

"Coming up on tomorrow's Jeremy Kyle Show - You are not a breakfast news programme anchorman, and you need to know it.."

VM

VMPhil 29 March 2016 11:48am

Austin Tatious posted:

Jay Lee posted:

Newsroom posted:

They would be, as they are presenting the show this morning.

I thought I'd chuck it in, seeing as every time someone blows their nose on Good Morning Britain, it's posted here.

I think Jay Lee's point was to note the different approaches of Breakfast compared to GMB. By which I mean that Breakfast's main anchors (who happen to be Dan & Naga today) are handling the breaking news, whereas GMB's main anchors (Kate & Jeremy) are largely taking a back seat for the breaking story in favour of the "news round up" presenter (Charlotte) handling it.

Of course, that's because BBC Breakfast doesn't have the (IMHO rather pointless) extra "newsreader" role. The main Breakfast anchors handle all the main news (breaking or otherwise), as there isn't anyone else. The other presenters who pop in for certain bits of the programme are there to handle e.g. business or sport specifically, as opposed to the "proper news". That said, sometimes the sport/business person will (at least partially) handle a breaking story, if it happens to be sport/business related.

Why ITV breakfast (right back to at least the GMTV days) has a tertiary presenter in addition to the main anchor duo, to basically just do the headline summaries and precious little else, has always been beyond me.

This is all well and good and you bring up some interesting points, but it remains that Jay Lee's post was ultimately pointless and posted apparently to bring attention to Breakfast away from GMB, even though it's more popular in the real world anyway.

I'm not sure why there's a need to apparently defend or bring attention to a show that beats Good Morning Britain by a vast margin most of the time anyway and has a distinct commercial advantage of, well, no commercials. The BBC will always have its supporters but I would hate for it to be the only option in the mornings.

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Custard56 29 March 2016 11:53am

VMPhil posted:

Austin Tatious posted:

Jay Lee posted:

I thought I'd chuck it in, seeing as every time someone blows their nose on Good Morning Britain, it's posted here.

I think Jay Lee's point was to note the different approaches of Breakfast compared to GMB. By which I mean that Breakfast's main anchors (who happen to be Dan & Naga today) are handling the breaking news, whereas GMB's main anchors (Kate & Jeremy) are largely taking a back seat for the breaking story in favour of the "news round up" presenter (Charlotte) handling it.

Of course, that's because BBC Breakfast doesn't have the (IMHO rather pointless) extra "newsreader" role. The main Breakfast anchors handle all the main news (breaking or otherwise), as there isn't anyone else. The other presenters who pop in for certain bits of the programme are there to handle e.g. business or sport specifically, as opposed to the "proper news". That said, sometimes the sport/business person will (at least partially) handle a breaking story, if it happens to be sport/business related.

Why ITV breakfast (right back to at least the GMTV days) has a tertiary presenter in addition to the main anchor duo, to basically just do the headline summaries and precious little else, has always been beyond me.

This is all well and good and you bring up some interesting points, but it remains that Jay Lee's post was ultimately pointless and posted apparently to bring attention to Breakfast away from GMB, even though it's more popular in the real world anyway.

I'm not sure why there's a need to apparently defend or bring attention to a show that beats Good Morning Britain by a vast margin most of the time anyway and has a distinct commercial advantage of, well, no commercials. The BBC will always have its supporters but I would hate for it to be the only option in the mornings.

Sorry to post such an offensive pointless post. In my defence, some made the point during the Brussels week that they wanted to see how Dan Walker would have coped with such a breaking story. Though it was nowhere near on the same scale, this morning provided an answer. Walker coped fine. I should have made this context clear in my original pointless post.

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Aaron_2015 29 March 2016 12:10pm

Jay Lee posted:

Easter Monday ratings:

BBC Breakfast 1.1m (39%)
Good Morning Britain 340,000 (11%)

Whilst that's undoubtedly an awful rating, that's about usual for a Bank Holiday. Despite the irritating Jeremy Kyle being there, he didn't cause the low rating.

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Moz 29 March 2016 1:37pm

Dear God. The last few posts have been like sticking pins in my eyes. How to write four paragraphs when one sentence would have covered it!!!

"You bring up some interesting points..." - WHERE!!? 😂

Do try harder guys.

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VMPhil 29 March 2016 1:40pm

Moz posted:

"You bring up some interesting points..." - WHERE!!? 😂

His points about GMB needing an extra newsreader when Breakfast does not were valid regardless of any perceived lack of conciseness.

JB

JasonB 29 March 2016 2:56pm

Hatton Cross posted:

"Coming up on tomorrow's Jeremy Kyle Show - You are not a breakfast news programme anchorman, and you need to know it.."

And Later "Ben Shepard proves to Kate Garraway through a lie detector test that he hasn't slept with Naga Munchetty"

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Andrew Founding member 29 March 2016 5:30pm

VMPhil posted:

Moz posted:

"You bring up some interesting points..." - WHERE!!? 😂

His points about GMB needing an extra newsreader when Breakfast does not were valid regardless of any perceived lack of conciseness.

Because GMB a isn't a news programme, it's a magazine that contains news as a part of it.

I find it amusing that he is outraged at the fact that ITV employ an additional newsreader but is perfectly happy with the sport and business presenters on Breakfast. If the main GMB hosts should read the news, then I'm sure the BBC Breakfast hosts could do a 2 min spot about supermarkets as well.

Making a big deal about a rating on a bank holiday while ignoring the blatant obvious reason why, is just so Digital Spy as well and an example of what goes on in their equally tedious (but for different reasons) GMB thread over there.

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