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LX
lxflyer
Cando posted:
The Notion is very much still there.


Why?

Both teams present three days each - I don't see what the difference is anymore.
CA
Cando
Cando posted:
The Notion is very much still there.


Why?

Both teams present three days each - I don't see what the difference is anymore.


It's not me you need to lecture.Just because you don't see the difference doesn't mean there isn't any.
It's the BBC (on various platforms) and Susanna herself that have been calling her the main presenter for the last 2 years. I couldn't care less.
LX
lxflyer
Cando posted:
Cando posted:
The Notion is very much still there.


Why?

Both teams present three days each - I don't see what the difference is anymore.


It's not me you need to lecture.Just because you don't see the difference doesn't mean there isn't any.
It's the BBC (on various platforms) and Susanna herself that have been calling her the main presenter for the last 2 years. I couldn't care less.


I'm not lecturing anyone - I merely queried your assertion.

I don't see the need for that tone.

Most of the references to "main" presenters have either been here or in the press.

Frankly, as I posted above, the concept is somewhat moot now that both teams do three days each, with Sunday being the poor relation.
FL
flaziola
BBC World News is starting to feel the pressure on the on screen staffing, with Mishal Hussein on Radio 4, Martine Dennis now with AJE and the sad passing of Komal Dumor, Naga is probably more needed in BH then Salford.
HO
House
Cando posted:
House posted:

Kate Garraway has been kept on for a long time since being dropped as a main presenter, while Adrian Chiles, Christine Bleakley, Lorraine Kelly, Aled Jones, John Stapleton and Lucy Verasamy have all been given new positions or deals.


What new deals?
As off next Sunday Christine Bleakley has no work or contract with ITV. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-03-02/christine-bleakleys-off-the-beaten-track-travel-show-scrapped-by-itv

Aled Jones has a 20 week contract which suspiciously ends on the 2nd anniversary of his debut on Daybreak. So basically just working out his contract.
Adrian Chiles has seen his factual series and his Sunday night show scrapped and is now just anchoring ITV football. Which is a about to loose the FA Cup and Champions league and is unlikely to remain as Football presenter once Peter Fincham leaves.
He is now the Friday presenter on Radio 5 Live's Drive.
Lorraine, Kate and John were all ITV to begin with.

House posted:

and Lucy Verasamy have all been given new positions or deals.


And??
Dan Lobb
Tamsin Lucia Khan
Kirsty McCabe
Grainne Seoige
Gavin Ramjaun
Steve Hargrave
Phil Reay Smith
Penny Smith
and that's before the next Daybreak bloodbath
House posted:
[Sian Williams returns from sabbatical (and Silverton from maternity leave) the network news team are again going to be overstaffed.


Why when were they overstaffed before? With Sophie soon to bow out to front a month of watchdog daily as well as a new BBC2 documentary series. I don't see the overstaffing especially as Kate does very little anyway (by choice). Last I heard of Sian she was actually filming an ITV factual pilot.


I didn't say ITV keeps everyone on - and IIRC it was Grainne Seoige decision not to continue at Daybreak, while Penny was offered Tasmin's position on Daybreak and turned it down. My point is rather if Susanna doesn't see her long-term future on morning television, she's as likely (if not more likely) to find a next position at ITV as she is the BBC. It is clearly a big risk moving to Daybreak, but not necessarily a bigger risk than quitting Breakfast three years without another pay cheque in position.

Re: overstating, Sian effectively replaced Kate Silverton on the nationals when she left Breakfast, on the News at One and weekend bulletins. This happily coincided with Kate returning from maternity leave to prt time work, and Sian subsequently went on leave, but in the long run it leaves the BBC with two high profile, experienced newsreaders with few regular shifts to share. Huw, Fiona, George and Sophie all seemingly remaining in their current positions for some time to come and therefore no network positions likely opening up that effectively leaves the network with more presenters than they need. That's not to say it leaves them with too high salary demands, nor tensions amongst colleagues, but it does prevent opportunities arising for Williams and Silverton, the NC presenters, correspondents etc.

By comparison Breakfast uses more low-profile presenters - Sally and Naga are now fairly familiar to viewers, but their other cover presenters are generally of a lower profile (Sian Lloyd, Roger Johnson etc.). When there are more senior presenters on the nationals than are needed, fewer on Breakfast and fewer on BBC World News, moving Naga to Breakfast might not fit with a greater overall strategy.

That might be different if Sian doesn't return to BBC News though. It might be she's allowed to film unaired pilots for other broadcasters without ending her BBC News contract, but I can't think of any BBC newsreaders presenting programming for other broadcasters?
DA
DAN09690
Quote:
but I can't think of any BBC newsreaders presenting programming for other broadcasters?

Several presenters do other things elsewhere
Martine Croxall did a series for green.tv and Gavin Grey works for many other broadcasters. Babita Sharma presented UK 360 on the community channel etc..

http://green.tv/videos/extreme-weather-episode-1-2/
http://youtu.be/UsV2dLOc1Jc?t=2m7s
http://www.communitychannel.org/video/xnvBwmEUrLY/uk360_episode_32_babita_sharma/
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Cando posted:
Cando posted:

Bill to the News Channel. Or replacing Naga on World 5am.


Why would Bill want to take a demotion like that and yes it is a massive demotion. He also just bought a house up there.

.

What about a return for Sophie?


Likewise a demotion.


Why would it be a demotion for Sophie, i'm sure many who work for bbc news would love the breakfast gig.


Is that a joke?


No it bloody well isn't, but i suppose my views on here are considered as a joke, something not serious, or my opinion is not valid. Just because some think they're better than me, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But not ones which offend people.

You do realise that Sophie's first main national presenting gig was on Breakfast (News as it was then) back in the late 1990s? She left in 2002 to move on to bigger and better things, namely co-presenting the Six and then moving up to having the One to herself when Anna Ford left. As far as I'm concerned, taking the same job you had 15 years ago when you've since had a higher profile role is a demotion. That's why Cando asked if it was a joke.
HO
House
Quote:
but I can't think of any BBC newsreaders presenting programming for other broadcasters?

Several presenters do other things elsewhere
Martine Croxall did a series for green.tv and Gavin Grey works for many other broadcasters. Babita Sharma presented UK 360 on the community channel etc..

http://green.tv/videos/extreme-weather-episode-1-2/
http://youtu.be/UsV2dLOc1Jc?t=2m7s
http://www.communitychannel.org/video/xnvBwmEUrLY/uk360_episode_32_babita_sharma/


Freelance presenters doing work for organisations that aren't direct competitors is a little different. Likewise Jon Sopel had (at least prior to his World News days) a regular feature for CBS News, Katty Kay regularly appears on MSNBC's morning programmes, and various others from Adam Bolton to Jon Snow have appeared on BBC programmes in commentator positions.

That's quite different, however, to working for a direct competitor (national television network) in the same capacity (as a presenter in daytime, factual programming). I'm also certain such work wouldn't be allowed if she were a full time employee, though there's a strong chance she's a freelancer/ under contract through a service company.

[For what it's worth, I'd much prefer Suzy Klein and/or Annita Anand continued on Saturday Live permanently; somehow I never quite felt Sian fitted the quirkiness of the programme.]
DK
DanielK
I think Eamonn Holmes is doing the closest thing possible; breakfast TV and then morning/daytime TV on a Friday.
MA
Markymark
I think Eamonn Holmes is doing the closest thing possible; breakfast TV and then morning/daytime TV on a Friday.


David Hamilton used to finish his Radio 1/2 afternoon show (younger readers will be amazed to learn that in the 60s and 70s the two stations simulcasted for long periods of the day) and then hot foot it to Thames at Euston to be duty continuity announcer for the evening. I even recall him mentioning it occasionally, as he signed off of his radio show.
CH
chris_rgu
Reporter John McGuire presenting breakfast today...first time?
DA
DAN09690
Reporter John McGuire presenting breakfast today...first time?

Yep , as far as i know today is his first time presenting Breakfast.
EDIT: He's mentioned several times that it is his first time.
Last edited by DAN09690 on 9 March 2014 8:49am

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