BBC Breakfast

isn't the tv showing 14:9 bars, thus suggesting it's analogue?

Yes, that's right, in which case it should either be set to 4:3, giving black side bars, as well as smaller bars top and bottom, or, 14:9 zoom, that would remove the top and bottom bars, and reduce the side bars, without geometrically distorting the image. None of it's rocket science, but there you go !

If it were taking a 4:3 digital feed and stretching it I think it would be far more inexcusable than what appears to be something that has been lashed up onto the wall within 90 seconds (have you seen the cables?). However given that analgoue in 14:9 can never properly fit a 16:9 panel without various bits of annoying compromise I suspect they've gone for the "least irritating" option.

btw my comment was more aimed at the "omg so that is why the graphics are 4:3 safe" comment rather than yourself. Some muppet from estates who shoves a cheapo screen onto a wall is hardly going to be designing the graphic safe areas.

I would like to point out that my comment was not meant to be taken seriously. Of course the graphics will not be designed purely for the TV in the green room of the studio but I was surprised to see the TV incorrectly set up in BBC Television Centre.

I'd say the 14:9 zoom mode would be the less less irritating option, but then of course if a 4:3 transmission came along ? Anyway, only a year to go, and something will have to be done to sort that TV out (or make it even worse !)
I've noticed more and more now in public places correct 16:9 on 16:9 screens, thanks to increasing numbers of TVs with Freeview tuners built in.

Nothing specific to BBC News. All UK 14:9 safe commissioned programmes should have their graphics within the 4:3 centre cut out portion. It's part of the 14:9 safe standard...

The BBC/ITV/C4 and Five use a common standard for shows delivered for 14:9 transmission on analogue. This has a 14:9 action safe area, but the 14:9 caption safe area is significantly narrower and is actually within the 4:3 centre cut-out area, though would not be display safe on a 4:3 TV displaying centre-cut (as it leaves almost no leeway for overscanned 4:3 displays).

BBC News just follow the standard more correctly than some others...

BSkyB has a slightly more proscriptive approach for their commissions and requires all graphics to be 4:3 centre-cut display safe (so their caption safe area is narrower still)

Whilst 4:3 displays remain in use, and whilst digital set-top boxes default to 4:3 centre-cut out, this is unlikely to change...

Probably worth remembering the hoo-hah when BBC News moved the clock out of the 4:3 safe area.

As to the original point.

The TV in-vision is almost certainly fed from a ring-main. Depending where it is in the building it will have access to different versions of BBC One.

Most ring mains carry two or three.

1. BBC One Analogue (aka Net 1 Analogue) which will be a 4:3 feed carrying 14:9 letterbox for most 16:9 shows (4:3 centre cut for sport)
2. BBC One Digital (aka Net 1 Digital) which will be a 16:9 feed for display on 16:9 sets. (Can't remember if 4:3 shows are pillarboxed or full-width)
3. BBC One Digital 4:3 centre-cut which will be a permanent 4:3 centre cut of the BBC One Digital feed.

Depending on how 2 and 3 are generated, often most people watch 1, as in some set-ups it has less delay.

Sounds like the Breakfast TV was tuned to the channel carrying 1. but running in the wrong display mode?

Never considered the delay issue, is this more or less significant (in terms of time) on the internal ring than on normal broadcasting? Do you suspect they'll continue to run an internal analogue feed due to this issue when DSO is complete?

Yes, but it'll probably be a modulated version of the pre-tx digital feed.

And so it begins as we see the fallout from the move to Salford.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/news/2011/03/29/sian-williams-to-quit-bbc-breakfast-along-with-chris-hollins-115875-23022971/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

It will be sad to see Sian Williams leave the programme, but she had already made it clear that her decision would be motivated by the wishes of her children, and the need to avoid any disruption to their education. I don't think that she has ever expressed any particular dislike for the North of England.

Hollins, on the other hand, has been quite vociferous: his London-centric objections to moving anywhere north of the M25 haven't increased the membership tally of his fan club, and I don't think he'll be missed.