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BBC Breakfast

(March 2009)

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DA
David
Have to say that if the Salford move means fewer people plugging things within the confines of a news programme, I'd say bring it on.


It could just mean more Manchester people plugging Manchester things.
DO
dosxuk
...when Radio Norwich opened in 1980


Think you've been watching too much Alan Partridge! Laughing
MA
Markymark
...when Radio Norwich opened in 1980


Think you've been watching too much Alan Partridge! Laughing


Ah ha !!! Well spotted Very Happy
DA
Davidjb Founding member
I have to admit I don't really understand the moving of BBC Breakfast to Manchester. What difference is it going to make to the program? It's hardly got a London feel to it now so I see it as a great way to waste even more license fee money.
JD
jdav
I have to admit I don't really understand the moving of BBC Breakfast to Manchester. What difference is it going to make to the program? It's hardly got a London feel to it now so I see it as a great way to waste even more license fee money.


I like how comments like "a waste of license fee money" comes into when they make a decision that someone doesn't like, yet I bet if people thought it was a good idea, then nothing would be said about the license fee. Its like they are just using the license fee to twist things.

Surely going by some polls, if the license fee is that well liked and suported, then you have to trust the BBC to make their own decisions in what they thinks best. This is why I don't agree with the BBC trust - its not them the money is going to, it's the BBC in general, and its that who should get to make the decisions, the ones who actually get the money. The BBC trust is sort of their as a scapegoat.
JD
jdav
I have to admit I don't really understand the moving of BBC Breakfast to Manchester. What difference is it going to make to the program?


Well, as we have seen in the old ITV days, when programmes was made throughout the UK, we got more ideas and better programmes, rather than what we see now in a centralised management creating ideas in London. Surley people in Manchester and the surrounding area can bring something new to the programme, as instead of the centralised thinking of a team in London.

Also, it may help them out of the terrible barco studio, and give them something fresh looking.
WE
Westy2
It'll be interesting to see the studio allocations in future, as in which shows will share which studios, bearing in mind Breakfast moves north & Working Lunch gets axed?

Is it entirely possible when BBC News moves to BH that all BBC One news progs (1, 6 & 10) will share entirely with the NC & if there is a second studio for domestic use, it'll only be used for Newsround & Newsnight(once a day Monday to Friday) & the Andy Marr / Politics Show combination on Sundays, unless both the 1 & 6 move in there too? (I'm assuming the World studio would still handle the 930pm half hour, unless the majority of Newsnight was prepared by 930, enabling the second studio to handle that half hour, then the final touches to be made between 10 & 1030?)

Where does the other programmes like Hardtalk & Newswatch fit in?
DA
Davidjb Founding member
jdav posted:
I have to admit I don't really understand the moving of BBC Breakfast to Manchester. What difference is it going to make to the program? It's hardly got a London feel to it now so I see it as a great way to waste even more license fee money.


I like how comments like "a waste of license fee money" comes into when they make a decision that someone doesn't like, yet I bet if people thought it was a good idea, then nothing would be said about the license fee. Its like they are just using the license fee to twist things.

Surely going by some polls, if the license fee is that well liked and suported, then you have to trust the BBC to make their own decisions in what they thinks best. This is why I don't agree with the BBC trust - its not them the money is going to, it's the BBC in general, and its that who should get to make the decisions, the ones who actually get the money. The BBC trust is sort of their as a scapegoat.


But the problem is it actually is a waste. There moving for the sake of moving (to try and be politically correct). Private companies only move if it's of huge benefit due to the HUGE relocation cost's. To move a program like Breakfast won't come cheap at all. Staff relocation costs alone will be rather large. I just don't see how it will benefit the license payer in any way which is why I think it is a waste. I'm an avid supporter of the licence fee but I just wish more thought went into these things than it appears actually does. BBC Breakfast is a BBC News programme, why move it 200 miles up the road from the rest of the departments when it works fine as it is?

The best thing the BBC could have done is invest the money in redeveloping TVC, would have cost a fraction in comparison to the Salford and BH projects combined and the license fee payers really would have benefitted from that.
BR
Brekkie
Exactly David.

Re: Newsround. With CBBC moving to Manchester might Newsround be from Salford too?
MW
Mike W

The best thing the BBC could have done is invest the money in redeveloping TVC, would have cost a fraction in comparison to the Salford and BH projects combined and the license fee payers really would have benefitted from that.


Two words:
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MI
m_in_m
jdav posted:
I have to admit I don't really understand the moving of BBC Breakfast to Manchester. What difference is it going to make to the program? It's hardly got a London feel to it now so I see it as a great way to waste even more license fee money.


I like how comments like "a waste of license fee money" comes into when they make a decision that someone doesn't like, yet I bet if people thought it was a good idea, then nothing would be said about the license fee. Its like they are just using the license fee to twist things.

Surely going by some polls, if the license fee is that well liked and suported, then you have to trust the BBC to make their own decisions in what they thinks best. This is why I don't agree with the BBC trust - its not them the money is going to, it's the BBC in general, and its that who should get to make the decisions, the ones who actually get the money. The BBC trust is sort of their as a scapegoat.


But the problem is it actually is a waste. There moving for the sake of moving (to try and be politically correct). Private companies only move if it's of huge benefit due to the HUGE relocation cost's. To move a program like Breakfast won't come cheap at all. Staff relocation costs alone will be rather large. I just don't see how it will benefit the license payer in any way which is why I think it is a waste. I'm an avid supporter of the licence fee but I just wish more thought went into these things than it appears actually does. BBC Breakfast is a BBC News programme, why move it 200 miles up the road from the rest of the departments when it works fine as it is?

The best thing the BBC could have done is invest the money in redeveloping TVC, would have cost a fraction in comparison to the Salford and BH projects combined and the license fee payers really would have benefitted from that.


I think the real issue here is why are the BBC being made to stick to this number of 1500 jobs being relocated. If there workforce is being reduced then the quota applied should be reduced proportionally and then we might not have this mess.

I would also far rather see each of the Radio stations produce content in Manchester than an entire station particularly Radio 5 Live which surely is now running the risk of gaining a heavy Manchester bias. I know Radio 4 already do have some of their content produced in Manchester.
DE
deejay
I think quite a lot of network radio is made outisde London. Certainly big chunks of Radio 2 come from The Mailbox, Radio 4 produces a fair amount of programming in Birmingham and Bristol. The one network that is hopelessly London centric is Radio One. Yes, there is the opt out programme but this is only on FM AIUI and is only transmitted to that nation: in other words nothing nationally transmitted on Radio One comes from Manchester, Birmingham, Bistol ... anywhere else in fact (unless I've missed something?). That's not to say it has never happened on the station: I think the ill-fated Mark and Lard Breakfast show came from Manchester didn't it?

I agree with other foumers in that the old regional structure of ITV did seem (anecdotally at least) to provide more inventive pogamming than the London-centric stuff now filling ITV. A show like The Good Old Days, produced by BBC Leeds, probably wouldn't get past the London Executives these days, yet was hugely popular and ran for years and years.

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