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KolonelKlink7 posts since 30 Oct 2018
London London
Might be worth reminding yourselves of what the tweet actually said:




Doesn't mention today, or Breakfast or even something appearing on TV Rolling Eyes


And indeed it wasn’t.



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JKDerry1,606 posts since 15 Oct 2016
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Seems the BBC isn't paying good salaries for designers, as going freelance was an uncertain path for many designers. At least working for the BBC you have a guaranteed income. Freelance must give him a chance to earn more than the BBC were offering?
all new Phil3,165 posts since 12 Feb 2005
Granada North West Today
Seems the BBC isn't paying good salaries for designers, as going freelance was an uncertain path for many designers. At least working for the BBC you have a guaranteed income. Freelance must give him a chance to earn more than the BBC were offering?

Or maybe he’s not motivated solely by money?
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More like designers are getting shafted at the BBC, and boring and bland ideas are being forced throw, which many people who have inspiration dont like.
Steve Williams2,721 posts since 1 Aug 2008
More like designers are getting shafted at the BBC, and boring and bland ideas are being forced throw, which many people who have inspiration dont like.


Love to know how you're so sure about this. "Some of the designs look crap" is not proof.
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More like designers are getting shafted at the BBC, and boring and bland ideas are being forced throw, which many people who have inspiration dont like.


Love to know how you're so sure about this. "Some of the designs look crap" is not proof.


I never said, crap, you implied something i never said. I said boring and bland ideas, doesn't make them crap.
Steve Williams2,721 posts since 1 Aug 2008
I never said, crap, you implied something i never said. I said boring and bland ideas, doesn't make them crap.


What I was asking is how you can be so sure as to state "designers are getting shafted at the BBC", and that they were being "forced" to work with "boring and bland ideas" which they "don't like". I think you're rather obliged to come up with some proof for that - other than your personal dislike of some of the BBC's output - given you are stating it so baldly.
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noggin14,318 posts since 26 Jun 2001
It's worth remembering that the BBC really only have staff designers in News - if you want to work on other genres (Factual, Entertainment, Events, Drama, Comedy etc.), you need to be freelance or working for an external graphics house.

The BBC stopped having an in-house general graphic design operation decades ago.
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I said it's more like designers are getting shafted at the BBC, That big difference in a statement, I'm rather disappointed your misinterpreted what I have wrote again. So that is twice.

The impression I get is from the Horses mouths ( not james since I have never spoken with his goodsel) , However that is nothing new in this business, it's been going for donkey years.

You can say it may have been a sweeping statement. No one know for sure why james left, Maybe he just wanted to get new outlook and concepts to deal to broaden his horizons and improve his craft.

Now That means the opinion I have picked up is valued, since it come from outside influences. There are problems at the BBC, There are problems at ITV, CH4, and Ch5. I do believe the issue the BBC are causing are self infecting could be resolved quicker if it cleared its mind.
Andrew13,586 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
So from a tweet from someone who once did a bit of work on Breakfast, it turned into a FIVE page discussion about a new look?

That is definitely peak TV Forum.

You should know, there will never be a new look on Breakfast, we will still have the same studio with the same graphics in 10 years from now!
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