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BBC Breakfast

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SP
Spencer
Bill Oddie really does come across as an arsehole. I always remember seeing him on This Is Your Life. He's the only person who's ever refused to take part. Apparently it took a huge amount of pleading and persuasion from his relatives to get him to go on the programme, despite everyone waiting for him in the studio. When he finally ended up on the show he just proceeded to be rude and sarcastic throughout.

Some people really shouldn't be on TV.
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r2ro
Markymark posted:
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned in here yet.

Duff talkback, and a grumpy Bill Oddie. Bill Turnbull gives as good as he gets.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DEmT0zzWALE


Rather funny although I think, despite Bill Oddie being generally grumpy, things weren't help with the lack of sound being fed to him. I did enjoy Mr Turnbull's reaction; unsurprisingly he didn't seem too impressed.

Unrelated, it was mentioned this morning that Bill Turnbull is presenting from America tomorrow and Wednesday for the US Election.
RE
Revitt
Can somebody answer me these two question please because they've been bugging me for some time.

Why does Breakfast come from N6 at the weekends and why does Breakfast last until 1000 on Saturdays?
PE
Pete Founding member
N6 is cheaper to run and it runs till 10 so they don't have to make any actual programming to fill the slot on the main channel.
ST
Stuart
Hymagumba posted:
N6 is cheaper to run and it runs till 10 so they don't have to make any actual programming to fill the slot on the main channel.

They won't have any excuse to simulcast the NC with BBC One after DSO (as there are no regional inserts at weekends) so they will have to come up with some programmes for weekend mornings then.

I can't imagine they would want their main channel starting at 10am (8am on Sundays).
PE
Pete Founding member
we've been saying that for years though, they're turning off BBC2 on Selkirk on Thursday and there's no sign of them getting rid of N24 as a filler
ST
Stuart
Hymagumba posted:
we've been saying that for years though, they're turning off BBC2 on Selkirk on Thursday and there's no sign of them getting rid of N24 as a filler

I'm sure they'll claim that simulcasting is required while a single analogue viewer remains. That argument may be true for the English regions, but not for the nations which have their own versions of BBC One and Two.

We'll see in 2009 when the whole of Wales switches, no doubt.
BU
buster
Don't see why people are convincenced news channel simulcasts will disappear - even when everyone can receive the channel it will remain a valuable "shop window" for those watching BBC1 who wouldn't otherwise venture as high as the news channel section of the EPG.
SP
Spencer
buster posted:
Don't see why people are convincenced news channel simulcasts will disappear - even when everyone can receive the channel it will remain a valuable "shop window" for those watching BBC1 who wouldn't otherwise venture as high as the news channel section of the EPG.


I think you're right. It's similar to the way Sky1 until recently simulcasted Sky News Sunrise, even though anyone with access to Sky1 would also be able to get Sky News. Now they simulcast Sky Sports News - which is also available to all Sky1 viewers.
TW
Time Warp
Spencer For Hire posted:
buster posted:
Don't see why people are convincenced news channel simulcasts will disappear - even when everyone can receive the channel it will remain a valuable "shop window" for those watching BBC1 who wouldn't otherwise venture as high as the news channel section of the EPG.


I think you're right. It's similar to the way Sky1 until recently simulcasted Sky News Sunrise, even though anyone with access to Sky1 would also be able to get Sky News. Now they simulcast Sky Sports News - which is also available to all Sky1 viewers.


Isn't News FTA, whereas Sports News FTV; meaning that those who haven't subscribed to the news mix wouldn't receive the channel?
ST
Stuart
buster posted:
Don't see why people are convincenced news channel simulcasts will disappear - even when everyone can receive the channel it will remain a valuable "shop window" for those watching BBC1 who wouldn't otherwise venture as high as the news channel section of the EPG.

Because it's rather hard to justify a claim that you are broadcasting 24-hour channels when you are simply simulcasting them.

None of the BBC channels are genuinely 24-hour. If they don't have the funds to broadcast something unique on each of their channels then they shouldn't be broadcasting.

The 'illusion' of an overnight service becomes transparent once everyone can see the simulcast. In view of the restricted bandwidth on Freeview, perhaps BBC One/Two or the NC should close down for a few hours at night to allow something else to be broadcast. Why not sell the space and make some money out of it?
SP
Spencer
Time Warp posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
buster posted:
Don't see why people are convincenced news channel simulcasts will disappear - even when everyone can receive the channel it will remain a valuable "shop window" for those watching BBC1 who wouldn't otherwise venture as high as the news channel section of the EPG.


I think you're right. It's similar to the way Sky1 until recently simulcasted Sky News Sunrise, even though anyone with access to Sky1 would also be able to get Sky News. Now they simulcast Sky Sports News - which is also available to all Sky1 viewers.


Isn't News FTA, whereas Sports News FTV; meaning that those who haven't subscribed to the news mix wouldn't receive the channel?


Ah... having checked, yes, you're right. I'd assumed Sky Sports News was FTA as well given that I get the channel but don't subscribe to the Sport package - didn't realise it was in the News package.

Either way my point still stands about the recent simulcast of Sky News Sunrise... and Live At Five on Sky 3 for that matter (although that's now ended too).

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