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GR
gregmc
Wrong aston used for a name check here:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2486057282_8073300a43.jpg
SP
Spencer
the eye posted:
Its his accent once again! I cringe when I hear many words pronounced differently in a British accent, hence you guys cringing at an Aussie! Do none of you guys watch H&A!?


Mispronouncing 'nuclear' has nothing to do with one's accent. I have an Australian friend who's a journalist who says it perfectly. Nobody's accent actually changes the position of the letters in the word.

There are also many British and American people who pronounce it wrong - George Bush for one. Which for me says it all really. Wink
FA
fanoftv
gregmc posted:
Wrong aston used for a name check here:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2486057282_8073300a43.jpg


It's different, and I quite like it.

I know I may sound stupid, but I always thought that the various astons worked in the form of a template that you entered the information into the various astons, or do they just have a system to type say ASTON : 1, LINE 1 : Denise Black, LINE 2 : Actress?
SE
Seb
gregmc posted:
Wrong aston used for a name check here:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2486057282_8073300a43.jpg


That has happened a few times on the News Channel as well.
NE
newsmonkey
fanoftv posted:
gregmc posted:
Wrong aston used for a name check here:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/2486057282_8073300a43.jpg


It's different, and I quite like it.

I know I may sound stupid, but I always thought that the various astons worked in the form of a template that you entered the information into the various astons, or do they just have a system to type say ASTON : 1, LINE 1 : Denise Black, LINE 2 : Actress?


Oh if only it were that easy - just a WYSIWYG style page where you type in what you want and see where it would appear.

Instead, what we have is codes (called CGs). If you're really interested we have:

2 - that's your bog standard two line name aston in a package
3 - a three line name aston as used on the NC, although the first line is the story name and you dont see it on screen
10 - that's a locator aston, and you can enter the GMT+/- info too
11 - a locator aston for the NC
31 - a story aston, two lines
32 - that's a top left credit aston
87 - nibs
88 - heads/quarters/halves
89 - a kinda starter for the above. an 88 comes on a few moments after an 89
93 - puts in the specified market's current values
trail - self exlplanatory (used to be variants 90, 91, 92)

Just a snippet, cos there's loads more, but you can see why there's scope for cock-ups. All of this just has to live somewhere inside a bbc tv journo's brain.

And yuo can see just how easy it is to put in a 32 instead of 2 and get the result pictured above.
DE
deejay
Well, the majority of the BBC does use a WYSIWYG style system. It's only the news channel, world and (I think) Tunbridge Wells that use the 'number codes' templates system described in the above post. Most centres use a system where the journo chooses the sort of strap or full-frame graphic that they want (the list might include "Name Strap", "Email Address", "Sport Result" etc.), types what s/he wants to appear into the resulting WYSIWYG form, and the generator makes it up as required for Tx.

Mind you, it'd be wrong to say it doesn't go wrong from time to time with that system either...!
PE
Pete Founding member
So why doesn't the story title for 3 appear on screen?

Also what is the difference between 10 and 11?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I guess 10 is the World News variant that gives local time
NE
newsmonkey
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I guess 10 is the World News variant that gives local time


i'm not entirely sure - i think the 11 is now obsolete, it was used when News 24 occasionally had to decamp to N6. Possibly. I've not used it for yonks.
NE
newsmonkey
Hymagumba posted:
So why doesn't the story title for 3 appear on screen?

Also what is the difference between 10 and 11?


Re: the 3 line - I'm guessing it's just a design throwback, originally they may have wanted to use it but then decided against it cos it would have looked a bit strange (as well as offering up weird story name/person name comedies of error...)

16 days later

GR
gregmc
Regarding 5Live's Simon Mayo joining the team, he talks in an interview on Media Guardian.

Quote:
The breakfast television thing came about because the editor of breakfast television asked if I wanted to have a go for a couple of weeks, then there were some date problems. It was all very convoluted. In the end they wanted me to take an enormous pay cut, so it didn't happen.


Simon Mayo on why Five Live is criminally underrated and how he's part Richard Dawkins and part Rowan Williams
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r2ro
Sue Thearle left the programme today to go 'upstairs and present the news' so looks like we will be seeing her on the News Channel shortly.

The usual montage of clips was shown (it looks like she hasn't changed a bit since she first started to do the sport!) and Susannah Reid followed it by saying she'd join Sue for a pint or three after the programme.

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