NG
Definitely not - it is a term only heard widely on this forum, and only really used to describe the platforms used in BBC News studios, which have a ridge round the edge for safety reasons, to stop chairs sliding off them.
Or is it a TVF invention?
I've only heard it used here - so I guess so.
If it is the latter, what is the correct term within the industry?
Rostrum - plural Rostra - would probably be the most widespread term.
The reasons for them in the news studios is both to add a design touch, and just as importantly to raise the presenters a bitt. The cameras in the news studios are mounted on remote pan/tilt heads on top of conventional pedestals, which means the cameras are quite a lot higher than if they were on normal pedestals alone. As a result the eyelines you get when the set is on the studio floor are not great as the camera is too high and tilted down. By raising the presenters you improve the eyeline on a main MCU.
noggin
Founding member
itsrobert posted:
Is 'baking tray' the correct broadcast term for those platforms?
Definitely not - it is a term only heard widely on this forum, and only really used to describe the platforms used in BBC News studios, which have a ridge round the edge for safety reasons, to stop chairs sliding off them.
Quote:
Or is it a TVF invention?
I've only heard it used here - so I guess so.
Quote:
If it is the latter, what is the correct term within the industry?
Rostrum - plural Rostra - would probably be the most widespread term.
The reasons for them in the news studios is both to add a design touch, and just as importantly to raise the presenters a bitt. The cameras in the news studios are mounted on remote pan/tilt heads on top of conventional pedestals, which means the cameras are quite a lot higher than if they were on normal pedestals alone. As a result the eyelines you get when the set is on the studio floor are not great as the camera is too high and tilted down. By raising the presenters you improve the eyeline on a main MCU.
BN
You know what, the lighting this morning appeared to make the set appear warmer, certainly moreso than N6...
ST
I thought that too. Aside from the nice orange light over the small desk and on the floor around it, the screens seemed to have a warmer red colour. Much more cosy.
It was amusing when they tried to show the newspaper front pages to the wrong side at 06:15 (ie the wall). Sian quickly realised and turned to hold up the paper to her left instead, after apologising and explaining that it was their first day in a different studio.
Breakfast News posted:
You know what, the lighting this morning appeared to make the set appear warmer, certainly moreso than N6...
I thought that too. Aside from the nice orange light over the small desk and on the floor around it, the screens seemed to have a warmer red colour. Much more cosy.
It was amusing when they tried to show the newspaper front pages to the wrong side at 06:15 (ie the wall). Sian quickly realised and turned to hold up the paper to her left instead, after apologising and explaining that it was their first day in a different studio.
LO
I thought that too. Aside from the nice orange light over the small desk and on the floor around it, the screens seemed to have a warmer red colour. Much more cosy.
It was amusing when they tried to show the newspaper front pages to the wrong side at 06:15 (ie the wall). Sian quickly realised and turned to hold up the paper to her left instead, after apologising and explaining that it was their first day in a different studio.
I am wondering if they plan to change the background soon, as it is not really set up for TC7. Where as in the previous studio BBC Breakfast was spaced around the studio, in spaces between the presenters and gusets, in TC7 it is positoned behind the presenter or guest, meaning you hardly ever see it. Now i know this is only a minor point, i just thought it looked better previously. The other problem i saw was when Breakfast was in N6 the sofa was positoned on the floor, meaning the camera was tilted down slightly on the sofa, making it seem less imposing, now with the camera being level, it seems to take up much more of the screen. I gess it is just a little niggle that i will have to get used to.
StuartPlymouth posted:
Breakfast News posted:
You know what, the lighting this morning appeared to make the set appear warmer, certainly moreso than N6...
I thought that too. Aside from the nice orange light over the small desk and on the floor around it, the screens seemed to have a warmer red colour. Much more cosy.
It was amusing when they tried to show the newspaper front pages to the wrong side at 06:15 (ie the wall). Sian quickly realised and turned to hold up the paper to her left instead, after apologising and explaining that it was their first day in a different studio.
I am wondering if they plan to change the background soon, as it is not really set up for TC7. Where as in the previous studio BBC Breakfast was spaced around the studio, in spaces between the presenters and gusets, in TC7 it is positoned behind the presenter or guest, meaning you hardly ever see it. Now i know this is only a minor point, i just thought it looked better previously. The other problem i saw was when Breakfast was in N6 the sofa was positoned on the floor, meaning the camera was tilted down slightly on the sofa, making it seem less imposing, now with the camera being level, it seems to take up much more of the screen. I gess it is just a little niggle that i will have to get used to.
IT
Definitely not - it is a term only heard widely on this forum, and only really used to describe the platforms used in BBC News studios, which have a ridge round the edge for safety reasons, to stop chairs sliding off them.
Or is it a TVF invention?
I've only heard it used here - so I guess so.
If it is the latter, what is the correct term within the industry?
Rostrum - plural Rostra - would probably be the most widespread term.
The reasons for them in the news studios is both to add a design touch, and just as importantly to raise the presenters a bitt. The cameras in the news studios are mounted on remote pan/tilt heads on top of conventional pedestals, which means the cameras are quite a lot higher than if they were on normal pedestals alone. As a result the eyelines you get when the set is on the studio floor are not great as the camera is too high and tilted down. By raising the presenters you improve the eyeline on a main MCU.
Thanks for the explanation, noggin. Much appreciated.
itsrobert
Founding member
noggin posted:
itsrobert posted:
Is 'baking tray' the correct broadcast term for those platforms?
Definitely not - it is a term only heard widely on this forum, and only really used to describe the platforms used in BBC News studios, which have a ridge round the edge for safety reasons, to stop chairs sliding off them.
Quote:
Or is it a TVF invention?
I've only heard it used here - so I guess so.
Quote:
If it is the latter, what is the correct term within the industry?
Rostrum - plural Rostra - would probably be the most widespread term.
The reasons for them in the news studios is both to add a design touch, and just as importantly to raise the presenters a bitt. The cameras in the news studios are mounted on remote pan/tilt heads on top of conventional pedestals, which means the cameras are quite a lot higher than if they were on normal pedestals alone. As a result the eyelines you get when the set is on the studio floor are not great as the camera is too high and tilted down. By raising the presenters you improve the eyeline on a main MCU.
Thanks for the explanation, noggin. Much appreciated.
NG
Though equally it is now an advantage as well - as the eyelines of the presenters are better, with the camera more at eye level - which is usually a nicer shot for a face - rather than tilted down as previously.
noggin
Founding member
LONDON posted:
The other problem i saw was when Breakfast was in N6 the sofa was positoned on the floor, meaning the camera was tilted down slightly on the sofa, making it seem less imposing, now with the camera being level, it seems to take up much more of the screen. I gess it is just a little niggle that i will have to get used to.
Though equally it is now an advantage as well - as the eyelines of the presenters are better, with the camera more at eye level - which is usually a nicer shot for a face - rather than tilted down as previously.
SA
Though equally it is now an advantage as well - as the eyelines of the presenters are better, with the camera more at eye level - which is usually a nicer shot for a face - rather than tilted down as previously.
surely the height of a camera can be adjusted to accommodate this? surely a camera isn't just tilted up or down to frame a shot of someone sitting down, whether or not the couch is on a tray? surely the actual height of the camera is adjusted appropriately?
noggin posted:
LONDON posted:
The other problem i saw was when Breakfast was in N6 the sofa was positoned on the floor, meaning the camera was tilted down slightly on the sofa, making it seem less imposing, now with the camera being level, it seems to take up much more of the screen. I gess it is just a little niggle that i will have to get used to.
Though equally it is now an advantage as well - as the eyelines of the presenters are better, with the camera more at eye level - which is usually a nicer shot for a face - rather than tilted down as previously.
surely the height of a camera can be adjusted to accommodate this? surely a camera isn't just tilted up or down to frame a shot of someone sitting down, whether or not the couch is on a tray? surely the actual height of the camera is adjusted appropriately?
LO
Well the studio they are in now is a proper studio with a decent lighting grid at a decent height - so you'd hope it would be.
It did look much warmer,but yes the backdrop looked a bit streched on the virtical side.But it was much better than it was in N6 all round plus TC7 is quite a bit bigger.Could they not go for a more structual set like The Am shows at least thats not all screens.But sian liked it.
So what happens to N6 now /when does work start.
noggin posted:
Breakfast News posted:
You know what, the lighting this morning appeared to make the set appear warmer, certainly moreso than N6...
Well the studio they are in now is a proper studio with a decent lighting grid at a decent height - so you'd hope it would be.
It did look much warmer,but yes the backdrop looked a bit streched on the virtical side.But it was much better than it was in N6 all round plus TC7 is quite a bit bigger.Could they not go for a more structual set like The Am shows at least thats not all screens.But sian liked it.
So what happens to N6 now /when does work start.