The Newsroom

BBC Arabic

(February 2008)

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snarfu
Arabic studios are 34A/B/C & 44A (For Radio) and 34D and 44D for television.
BH
Bvsh Hovse
snarfu posted:
Arabic TV studios are 34A/B/C & 44A (For Radio) and 34D and 44D for television.


Fantastic - I did get it horribly wrong!

I have regular problems getting studio (or any room number in general) right. This is the source of much amusement, confusion and sometimes annoyance among my colleagues. The funny thing is I had read a blog on gateway about the start of Arabic TV that mentioned 34D and 44D so I really have no excuse Embarassed

If I ever tell you to move a piano, make sure you get a second opinion on where it needs to go Very Happy
JO
Joshua
Here we are Bvsh Hovse, I'm sure this must be it. It's made to look as if there is another floor above with a balcony looking down on the set. Looks very nice:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/bbcarabiclarge.jpg
JO
Joe
That does look good! Does it look that impressive at a higher resolution?
BH
Bvsh Hovse
josh205 posted:
Here we are Bvsh Hovse, I'm sure this must be it. It's made to look as if there is another floor above with a balcony looking down on the set. Looks very nice:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/bbcarabiclarge.jpg


That's the one, and it looks more impressive when you see it off air, sadly the streaming process doesn't convey the subtlety very well. Off air you can see movement in the upper gallery and the monitors changing. All a video loop I'm sure, but for the few seconds you get of it, the illusion does hold.

Nice to see it looks like the alignment had been fixed too, I noticed during the pilot the pillars don't line up between the two floors.
MO
Moz
Isn't this another case of the BBC lying to its viewers?
NG
noggin Founding member
Moz posted:
Isn't this another case of the BBC lying to its viewers?


No more so than the ITV News background being a "fake" newsroom, or the BBC News Skyline being a stitch together with animated twinkles.

You do know that the weather presenters aren't suspended above the Earth to stand in front of the satellite picture don't you?
EY
the eye
noggin posted:

You do know that the weather presenters aren't suspended above the Earth to stand in front of the satellite picture don't you?


Laughing Laughing
NE
newsmonkey
Bvsh Hovse posted:
I still have not seen the virtual shot of studio 33D that was used in the pilots. Maybe it was just an experiment and has been dropped, but it looked very impressive. Let's just say the studio was made to look a lot bigger, and it had everyone in the office fooled who had never stood in the studio.


Is the virtual balcony generated using a similar system to the Theatre of News? The camera does a bit of a zoom so it's not your bog standard overlay presumably...?
BE
Ben Founding member
newsmonkey posted:
The camera does a bit of a zoom so it's not your bog standard overlay presumably...?


Could just be a clever DVE, the old ITV News set used to use an effect to make it look as though the camera was zooming in when really the whole picture, overlay and all was being zoomed digitally.
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newsmonkey
Ben posted:
newsmonkey posted:
The camera does a bit of a zoom so it's not your bog standard overlay presumably...?


Could just be a clever DVE, the old ITV News set used to use an effect to make it look as though the camera was zooming in when really the whole picture, overlay and all was being zoomed digitally.


Yeah, spot on! Noggin answered it in the BBC News rebranding thread too:

noggin posted:

AIUI the super wideshot used by BBC Arabic isn't virtual reality per se - it is simply a key effect to matte in extra bits of set that aren't really there. This is not VR - it is a simple key effect. (VR implies that the backgrounds are rendered live and track camera movements)

ITV used to do something similar on one of their previous sets - matte-ing in a walk way, and of course the BBC "Virtual Blue" set did something similar - and although described as "Virtual" it didn't use VR techniques (just some clever pre-rendered moves and clever keying and charisma moves timeline locked together)
MO
Moz
noggin posted:
Moz posted:
Isn't this another case of the BBC lying to its viewers?


No more so than the ITV News background being a "fake" newsroom, or the BBC News Skyline being a stitch together with animated twinkles.

You do know that the weather presenters aren't suspended above the Earth to stand in front of the satellite picture don't you?

Sorry - I forgot the Laughing after my post!

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