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BBC News this Christmas - impact of cuts & Covid

No evening BBC 1 bulletins Xmas day & Boxing day (December 2020)

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CA
Cardiffian
Looking at News Channel & World News it's largely the same schedule meaning I think they plan to simulcast from 00:00 on Christmas Day until 06:00 on Boxing Day expect for Breakfast

I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.
AN
Andrew Founding member
AlexS posted:
JCB posted:
I suspect it's not tenable at all given today's developments. The UK's main PSB channel cannot be without a main evening news bulletin for 2 days during a rapidly evovling national crisis.


It's been a rapidly evolving national crisis for 9 months. If you really are clamouring for the latest details on Christmas day then go to the news channel and let everyone else have the f**king day off.

The way things are going it's not impossible that the government will announce shop closures on Xmas day that are effective that night. Given that many people head to bed early so that they can be outside next by the early hours of the morning on boxing day in order to buy 8 of the same jumper in different sizes it would be an essential piece of public service broadcasting to cover that on BBC One at some point during the main schedule.

I think that is highly unlikely


Can anyone remind me what everyone is arguing about in this thread, I think it’s gone very 2020 and people are disagreeing for the point of disagreeing.
JO
Jonwo
JCB posted:
I find it funny that people think there is no teatime bulletin on Christmas Day because the BBC want to give everyone a day off from hearing about the virus.


No, it's mostly bemusement at the fact some seem to think there should be an extended bulletin because of the virus.


If the news junkies had their way, it'd be wall to wall news all day on BBC One throughout Christmas.
LL
London Lite Founding member
It's not like there aren't two 24/7 domestic news channels which will have news bulletins on throughout the day.
JF
JF World News
Looking at News Channel & World News it's largely the same schedule meaning I think they plan to simulcast from 00:00 on Christmas Day until 06:00 on Boxing Day expect for Breakfast

I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.


In light of London going into Tier 4 this is being reviewed and could be extended according to Fran Unsworth. Only colleagues essential for broadcasts and transmission allowed in.

Also: “In light of the new restrictions, we are also actively looking at how we further simplify our output."
RN
Rolling News
Looking at News Channel & World News it's largely the same schedule meaning I think they plan to simulcast from 00:00 on Christmas Day until 06:00 on Boxing Day expect for Breakfast

You may well be right, Karin Giannone has tweeted about appearing after Martine Croxall on Christmas Day suggesting the 2 channels are simulcasting.
BF
BFGArmy
AJB39 posted:
Just a thought but I do wonder given the rapidly evolving COVID 19 situation how tenable it will be not to have a proper early evening news bulletin on BBC 1 on either Christmas Day or Boxing Day.

I suspect it's not tenable at all given today's developments. The UK's main PSB channel cannot be without a main evening news bulletin for 2 days during a rapidly evovling national crisis.

I can't imagine the football on Boxing day being allowed to go ahead now anyway, so another film will have to be found to fill the gap.


Like any TV schedule it’s not set in stone.
If there is a hugely significant event on Christmas Day or Boxing Day that does require rolling coverage on BBC1 then BBC1 will no doubt cover it or will extend the bulletins so they are longer.
MA
Markymark
Looking at News Channel & World News it's largely the same schedule meaning I think they plan to simulcast from 00:00 on Christmas Day until 06:00 on Boxing Day expect for Breakfast

I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.


In light of London going into Tier 4 this is being reviewed and could be extended according to Fran Unsworth. Only colleagues essential for broadcasts and transmission allowed in.

Also: “In light of the new restrictions, we are also actively looking at how we further simplify our output."


I'm not sure why. Nothing with the move from Tier 3 to 4 has changed the measures that were already in place for workplaces, and work related travel, has it ?
DV
dvboy
I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.


In light of London going into Tier 4 this is being reviewed and could be extended according to Fran Unsworth. Only colleagues essential for broadcasts and transmission allowed in.

Also: “In light of the new restrictions, we are also actively looking at how we further simplify our output."


I'm not sure why. Nothing with the move from Tier 3 to 4 has changed the measures that were already in place for workplaces, and work related travel, has it ?


No, but perhaps the BBC has reviewed what it's doing and thinks it need to put precautions in above an beyond the requirements set out by government, and that's no bad thing, it's what any responsible employer should do.
AS
AlexS
Looking at News Channel & World News it's largely the same schedule meaning I think they plan to simulcast from 00:00 on Christmas Day until 06:00 on Boxing Day expect for Breakfast

I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.


In light of London going into Tier 4 this is being reviewed and could be extended according to Fran Unsworth. Only colleagues essential for broadcasts and transmission allowed in.

Also: “In light of the new restrictions, we are also actively looking at how we further simplify our output."

If they were that bothered about the new restrictions they'd stop presenters based in tier 4 areas travelling to Salford (or other locations out with tier 4) as the minimum which they haven't done (and those based elsewhere from travelling into tier 4). Fran Unsworth just wants an excuse to put out a bare bones service over Xmas. Instead of symbolic moves relating to having more correspondents appear over zoom they should be focussing on reducing the actions that actually could cause to the virus spreading across the country.
Last edited by AlexS on 20 December 2020 4:37pm
AN
Andrew Founding member
AlexS posted:
I suspect it will be longer - from 7pm on Xmas Eve right through until 6am on Sunday 27th, excepting Breakfast on Boxing day.


In light of London going into Tier 4 this is being reviewed and could be extended according to Fran Unsworth. Only colleagues essential for broadcasts and transmission allowed in.

Also: “In light of the new restrictions, we are also actively looking at how we further simplify our output."

If they were that bothered about the new restrictions they'd stop presenters based in tier 4 areas travelling to Salford (or other locations out with tier 4) as the minimum which they haven't done (and those based elsewhere from travelling into tier 4). Fran Unsworth just wants an excuse to put out a bare bones service over Xmas. Instead of symbolic moves relating to having more correspondents appear over zoom they should be focussing on reducing the actions that actually could cause to the virus spreading across the country.


Now I 100% expect that he is following all guidelines and social distancing, but look at someone like Chris Mason

On Monday he's in Downing street mixing with reporters and crew from other broadcasters, on Wednesday he's on air live from BBC Millbank, on Friday he could be in the studio at NBH and on Sunday he's doing Breakfast from Salford.
AJB39, Matthew_Fieldhouse and Ghost gave kudos
CA
Cardiffian
I can't believe some of the hyperbolic replies to this thread, ranging from swearing to accusing some people of wanting BBC 1 to become a rolling news channel on Xmas Day.

I've been interested in following news & current affairs for around 15 years, and in that time I cannot remember an Xmas Day & Boxing Day when BBC 1 did not have a structured, 10 - 15 minute early evening news bulletin on either day. So I set up this thread to merely question why in this news heavy year and during a rapidly evolving national crisis, why this year of all years, there's no scheduled, structured evening news bulletin at all on BBC 1 on Xmas Day & Boxing Day.

I wasn't "calling" for "extended" early evening bulletins on these 2 days. I was asking why there are no bulletins scheduled at all. Yes, there is the NC, but lots of people can't be bothered watching half hour of news and the analysis and other filler material the NC puts in to stretch it all out. They just want 10 - 15 mins of structured reports of the days main stories. Thinking that BBC 1 should have a 15 minute, structured evening bulletin on Xmas or Boxing Day is hardly wanting to turn BBC 1 into a Christmas rolling news channel, as has been implied by some.

I agree with the replies that it's most likely a BBC 1 scheduling decision, but as I said, in this year of all year's, I find it a strange one. I just think that as the UK's publicly funded PSB in 2020, the BBC should be providing a 15 minute or so structured evening news bulletin, as it has done every year for as long as I can remember. I'm sure someone will contradict me and tell me that in 2002 there was no early evening news bulletin on Xmas or Boxing Day.

I await the further replies accusing me of wanting a BBC News takeover of BBC 1 on Xmas Day & Boxing Day to follow.......maybe some more swearing and sarcastic, bordering on offensive remarks will also be thrown in
Last edited by Cardiffian on 20 December 2020 7:40pm

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