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ASIA Disaster - Coverage & Discussion

150,000 Confirmed Dead (December 2004)

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CU
cummig20
I can see why people want to have senior correspondents on the scene, but the South-East Asia Correspondents are also journalists, and it is their job to cover news from that region. Why send out people from London to cover a story that can be done just as well by the (roughly) 10 people that are already in the region?
CA
cat
I think the only fair criticism of the BBC's coverage you can make (other than the dire efforts of BBC One/Two to cover events) is that they have rested on their laurels a little too much.

Whereas Sky have sent out their top people and are presenting from the region, the fact that the Beeb already have a massive amount of correspondents around the place has probably meant there was less impetus to send any of the top bods out there and the coverage seems to be almost routine for them. Because Sky have had to send people out there, it seems like a greater effort and the coverage seems extraordinary.

I really don't think you can criticise the BBC for poorly deploying people. From what I have seen, they have someone in every one of the countries hit because they've got so many people in the area.

I am still confused as to where Richard Bestic, Sky's India correspondent, actually is. Talk about missing the boat.
CA
cat
cummig20 posted:
I can see why people want to have senior correspondents on the scene, but the South-East Asia Correspondents are also journalists, and it is their job to cover news from that region. Why send out people from London to cover a story that can be done just as well by the (roughly) 10 people that are already in the region?


I think this is the point I was just making... the thing is, why not send them out?

It's almost lazy to sit there and say 'oh we've already got people out there, we don't need to make the effort', and that's the sort of impression the Beeb's coverage seems to be giving people.

Sky have got two of their top presenters in the region... News 24 haven't even got two of their top presenters on their anchor desk in London. It looks a bit feeble, that's all.
CU
cummig20
cat posted:
cummig20 posted:
I can see why people want to have senior correspondents on the scene, but the South-East Asia Correspondents are also journalists, and it is their job to cover news from that region. Why send out people from London to cover a story that can be done just as well by the (roughly) 10 people that are already in the region?


I think this is the point I was just making... the thing is, why not send them out?

It's almost lazy to sit there and say 'oh we've already got people out there, we don't need to make the effort', and that's the sort of impression the Beeb's coverage seems to be giving people.

Sky have got two of their top presenters in the region... News 24 haven't even got two of their top presenters on their anchor desk in London. It looks a bit feeble, that's all.


Fair enough, and I agree that the BBCs coverage on terrestrial and the presenting staff on News 24 is a bit feeble, they could have had news specials up until now and called in the'top' presenter for N24 (whoever that is), but I personally don't see the point in having to send more people out to the region when there are people already there doing a fine job. People are forever complaining that the BBC wastes too much money, and this is a criticism i'm sure they'd hear if they sent more people out. Just because these people aren't 'senior' correspondents doesn't mean we are getting an inferior news service.
CA
cat
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.

EDIT: Oh my word. An absolutely spectacular display on Fox. They were discussing President Bush's reaction (because heaven forbid they look beyond their own shores) to the events, and the presenter announced ''there's been some criticism of President Bush, and this is absolutely extraordinary, that the United States isn't doing enough''. And throughout this he was shaking his head and sighing etc etc. Then they announced how shocking it was that Saudi Arabia was donating money, and got the figures for how much the both the USA and the UK are donating wrong.
NR
News room
cat posted:
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.


Yeah that's quite respulsive. Surely in an event such as this, everyone is equal, who the hell wants to know about whether people of celebrity status have been involved over say Joe Bloggs and his wife from Doncaster.
CU
cummig20
News room posted:
cat posted:
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.


Yeah that's quite respulsive. Surely in an event such as this, everyone is equal, who the hell wants to know about whether people of celebrity status have been involved over say Joe Bloggs and his wife from Doncaster.


I agree. Last night I kept hearing about Lord Attenborough and how his granddaughter had died. Fair enough, it is a personal tragedy for the man and I feel sympathy for everyone who has lost family and friends in the tragedy, but I didn't think we needed to hear this as it makes no difference whether he is a well-known person or not, it doesn't make his loss any greater than anyone else's.
JA
jay Founding member
cummig20 posted:
News room posted:
cat posted:
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.


Yeah that's quite respulsive. Surely in an event such as this, everyone is equal, who the hell wants to know about whether people of celebrity status have been involved over say Joe Bloggs and his wife from Doncaster.


I agree. Last night I kept hearing about Lord Attenborough and how his granddaughter had died. Fair enough, it is a personal tragedy for the man and I feel sympathy for everyone who has lost family and friends in the tragedy, but I didn't think we needed to hear this as it makes no difference whether he is a well-known person or not, it doesn't make his loss any greater than anyone else's.


Whilst that is true, you could apply the same thing to the death of Princess Diana. Just because she was part of the royal family...

Lord Attenborough came from my village..my grandma has got pictures of her mum with him. It's a sad loss for him and for the whole country: they were not just members of his family, but British citezens.
CU
cummig20
[/quote]Lord Attenborough came from my village..my grandma has got pictures of her mum with him. It's a sad loss for him and for the whole country: they were not just members of his family, but British citezens.[/quote]

Yes, but so were the 20 or so other Britons who died. I'm sure he is a lovely man, and, as I have said, I have sympathy for everyone affected, but I don't see why they should report this as it makes his family seem more important than the others who died.
CA
cat
jay posted:
cummig20 posted:
News room posted:
cat posted:
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.


Yeah that's quite respulsive. Surely in an event such as this, everyone is equal, who the hell wants to know about whether people of celebrity status have been involved over say Joe Bloggs and his wife from Doncaster.


I agree. Last night I kept hearing about Lord Attenborough and how his granddaughter had died. Fair enough, it is a personal tragedy for the man and I feel sympathy for everyone who has lost family and friends in the tragedy, but I didn't think we needed to hear this as it makes no difference whether he is a well-known person or not, it doesn't make his loss any greater than anyone else's.


Whilst that is true, you could apply the same thing to the death of Princess Diana. Just because she was part of the royal family...

Lord Attenborough came from my village..my grandma has got pictures of her mum with him. It's a sad loss for him and for the whole country: they were not just members of his family, but British citezens.


Sorry, it's nothing like Princess Diana dying.

She died with 2 other people in a car crash... 60,000+ people dying in tsunamis is as different as it could possibly be.

In a situation like Princess Diana's death, it was logical to focus on her. When thousands upon thousands of people have died and millions of people have been made homeless, it is totally irrelevant to put 'ANGUISH OF ATTENBOROUGH' on the front pages.
JA
jay Founding member
cummig20 posted:
Lord Attenborough came from my village..my grandma has got pictures of her mum with him. It's a sad loss for him and for the whole country: they were not just members of his family, but British citezens.


Yes, but so were the 20 or so other Britons who died. I'm sure he is a lovely man, and, as I have said, I have sympathy for everyone affected, but I don't see why they should report this as it makes his family seem more important than the others who died.[/quote]

I think they reported it as it makes it seem more real. If they reported that Mr and Mrs Joe Bloggs from Corby had lost Jenny and Jack Bloggs in the Tsunami, I'm sure everyone would be very upset but it still wouldn't seem real enough.

Because Lord Attenborough is a celebrity, he is looked upto, so to speak, and it just puts things in perspective.

I know what I'm trying to say but I can't explain it very well.
MA
marksi
cat posted:
Just had a look at Fox News.

They have been talking about the plight of the Victoria's Secret model who was caught up in the events, not missing the opportunity to show some half-naked pictures of her at the same time, and reminding us how tragic it is that a woman of such delicacy and beauty should be caught up in all this.

Really does make me feel sick.

EDIT: Oh my word. An absolutely spectacular display on Fox. They were discussing President Bush's reaction (because heaven forbid they look beyond their own shores) to the events, and the presenter announced ''there's been some criticism of President Bush, and this is absolutely extraordinary, that the United States isn't doing enough''. And throughout this he was shaking his head and sighing etc etc. Then they announced how shocking it was that Saudi Arabia was donating money, and got the figures for how much the both the USA and the UK are donating wrong.


I caught a little of that myself, though turned over very quickly as I couldn't quite believe what I was hearing and I was getting more angry by the second.

The estimated cost of the US adventure in Iraq: $87BN. Amount initially offered in aid to victims of the tsunamis - $35M. That is 0.04% of the amount spent in Iraq. Now, even if, as Fox "News" suggests, the total the US gives rises to $1BN, that is just over 1%.

The caring side of America. Rolling Eyes

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