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9/11 Anniversary Coverage

(September 2011)

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JA
Jamesypoo
There used to be this ticker to show the headlines during recorded programmes...

http://tvhome.co.uk/captures/bbcnews24/1999/large/aston-2003-headlines.jpg
(TV Home picture)

Certainly not permanent, though.
CH
chris
I think I can clear up when the News 24 ticker became permanent. I believe when the tower launched in December 03 it was supposed to be used infrequently, like in times of important news or updates. From what I can remember it remained this way right up until the 2005 election when in was used for election news, then it just continued ever since.

The ticker also used to change the title underneath the tower to the appropriate headline name (like 'Tories' or 'Iraq War') but then in 2006 it changed from blue to white and the text underneath the tower just read 'Headlines', 'Sport' and 'Interactive' as it does today.
GE
Gareth E
dvboy posted:
dvboy posted:
I can't remember a time before September 2001 when News 24 was shown on BBC1 or BBC2, aside from overnight simulcasts, of course.

Weekend 24 had started before then I think at 8am on a Saturday morning on BBC2 - this was before Breakfast became 7 days a week when BBC1 had the childrens programmes on a Saturday morning and Weekend 24 was slotted in around Open University programmes on BBC2


Concorde crash in July 2000.


Aha! Did they simulcast for that? I was in the USA when that happened so I didn't see the BBC. I wonder if that was the first time it ever happened then? It can't have happened too frequently before 2000, as I can still vividly recall News Reports with the BBC1 presenter which happen very seldom these days. News Reports... how incredibly retro Laughing


Yes but whether it was BBC1 on News 24 or the other way round, I can't remember. I was in the foyer of Pebble Mill at the time and remember both BBC 1 and News 24 screens showing the same pictures.
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BBC One took a feed at 17:35 of BBC news 24 and then covered it for 15mins on the 6 o'clock news
http://sotcaa.net/history/sotcaa2000/forum/forumarchive01/forum0785.html
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[...]2000 - when News24 interupted BBC One for breaking news, for the first time ever - the concorde crash.

They had a big red BREAKING NEWS dog in the top right hand corner i think it was.
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/post130603#post130603
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There was a BBC News 24 simulcast on BBC1 at 5:35 on the day of the Concorde crash in 2000.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=48254001&postcount=13

So I think we can be pretty certain that was the first time. The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.


Just to note - as well as the News 24 simulcast on BBC One, I vividly remember Michael Buerk presenting an extended news report from the then-nationals studio on BBC Two at around 4.30pm on the afternoon of the Concorde crash. IIRC it lasted for around 20 minutes, so much more than just a newsflash.
EX
excel99
dvboy posted:
The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.

Was there one that day? The news broke during Breakfast, so no simulcast or news flash was needed for the announcement of death anyway
SN
The SNT Three
dvboy posted:
The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.

Was there one that day? The news broke during Breakfast, so no simulcast or news flash was needed for the announcement of death anyway


It was Peter Sissons who broke the news (I think!) so I presume it was a bit later than Breakfast?
MI
Michael
dvboy posted:
The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.

Was there one that day? The news broke during Breakfast, so no simulcast or news flash was needed for the announcement of death anyway


It was Peter Sissons who broke the news (I think!) so I presume it was a bit later than Breakfast?


That was the Queen Mum. Sissons just read the late news after Casualty and before Enemy of the State.
EX
excel99
Was there a News 24 simulcast on November 12th 2001 for the New York plane crash that was initially feared to be another terrorist attack? I remember ITV had some rolling news coverage that afternoon instead of CITV
BB
BBC LDN
Pete posted:
Oh god I remember those horrible astons. They were utterly terrible in every possible way. IIRC wasn't this at around the same time as the ghastly version of N6 with the laminate flooring?

Thinking back, didn't they animate on in a utterly horrid way too? Like the red bit sliding sideways and the black bit coming up from the bottom?

EDIT: Have been trying to find footage myself and it seems to be a very tricky section of BBC News history to find. There is however this

Did BBC World have a more subdued version of the astons?


Indeed, I think that the red bit animated sideways, and then the black bit slid down to fill the lower-third. But in a breaking news scenario, the red breaking news strap would appear towards the bottom of the screen (doing the usual BREAKING NEWS / WHATEVER EXPLOSION back-and-forth wipe-on-wipe-off thing), then it would slide up and expose the black background, and the story detail text would then appear.

All quite horrific.

The graphics in the video you attached above were only used for headline round-ups and in-briefs; the standard World graphics at the time that N24 started experimenting with/ruining its graphics set-up were, I believe, more similar to the original 1999 set, but with the cream header changed to white text on a red bar; and the purple story text changed to a black background.

Was this the version of N6 you were referring to by the way?

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@Ginnyfan: there's no web link to the N9 photo I'm afraid; I had it on my server.
TV
TVAND
I remember that set, does someone have the mock version of the background used in 2003?
MA
Markymark
dvboy posted:
The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.

Was there one that day? The news broke during Breakfast, so no simulcast or news flash was needed for the announcement of death anyway


There was one, BBC 1 were not simulcasting Breakfast at the time. There was a dreadfully fumbled attempt by BBC 1 to opt in to the News 24 output. It'll be on You Tube somewhere.
PE
Pete Founding member
Was this the version of N6 you were referring to by the way?

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Yup that's the one. It matched nothing else they had, used a horrible background that was constantly washed out and looked utterly fake (I think the term "the three stooges" was common on here due to the constant appearance of three crummy people in the same place every day during the loop).

Also the screens used a strange logo that didn't match anything else, it was like looking down on a cake stand with a six on the top. The only other place this appeared was on the daytime summary from the staircase.

Despite this, it shows that even then a bit more effort went into actually building a set than is done with the barcotastic ideas today. I wonder if the current version of N6 would have looked better if they'd actually put a set of glass panels like the globe etchings in front of the barcos instead of badly doing it on computer. Marr's show shows how much better those sets work when you don't rely on the screens for absolutely everything.
BU
buster
dvboy posted:
dvboy posted:
I can't remember a time before September 2001 when News 24 was shown on BBC1 or BBC2, aside from overnight simulcasts, of course.

Weekend 24 had started before then I think at 8am on a Saturday morning on BBC2 - this was before Breakfast became 7 days a week when BBC1 had the childrens programmes on a Saturday morning and Weekend 24 was slotted in around Open University programmes on BBC2


Concorde crash in July 2000.


Aha! Did they simulcast for that? I was in the USA when that happened so I didn't see the BBC. I wonder if that was the first time it ever happened then? It can't have happened too frequently before 2000, as I can still vividly recall News Reports with the BBC1 presenter which happen very seldom these days. News Reports... how incredibly retro Laughing


Yes but whether it was BBC1 on News 24 or the other way round, I can't remember. I was in the foyer of Pebble Mill at the time and remember both BBC 1 and News 24 screens showing the same pictures.
edit:
Quote:
BBC One took a feed at 17:35 of BBC news 24 and then covered it for 15mins on the 6 o'clock news
http://sotcaa.net/history/sotcaa2000/forum/forumarchive01/forum0785.html
Quote:
[...]2000 - when News24 interupted BBC One for breaking news, for the first time ever - the concorde crash.

They had a big red BREAKING NEWS dog in the top right hand corner i think it was.
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/post130603#post130603
Quote:
There was a BBC News 24 simulcast on BBC1 at 5:35 on the day of the Concorde crash in 2000.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=48254001&postcount=13

So I think we can be pretty certain that was the first time. The next one after Sept 11 was presumably the death of Princess Margaret on 9/2/2002.


Just to note - as well as the News 24 simulcast on BBC One, I vividly remember Michael Buerk presenting an extended news report from the then-nationals studio on BBC Two at around 4.30pm on the afternoon of the Concorde crash. IIRC it lasted for around 20 minutes, so much more than just a newsflash.


He definitely did a bulletin on BBC One that replaced Newsround (must have scared all the kids) - big change from the 70s/80s when Newsround was allowed to break the news themselves. After the bulletin it went back to CBBC for It'll Never Work, then to News 24 at 5.35.

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