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8pm BBC News summary axed

(May 2018)

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LH
lhx1985
BM11 posted:
I am suprised they didn't try at least doing only the national part - with the regional part cut.


I'd argue that they should have cut the national part and supplied the UK news video and scripts to the regional centres.
Let them put out the bulletins in a similar fashion to radio news bulletins where there is a mix of local and national stuff.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Do we know why it's been axed? Is it a resourcing issue or a scheduling one?

Or is the audience it was designed to serve now getting BBC News through other means (eg Newsbeat on Facebook) so it's raision d'etre is no longer valid?
VM
VMPhil

Or is the audience it was designed to serve now getting BBC News through other means (eg Newsbeat on Facebook) so it's raision d'etre is no longer valid?

That audience was getting news through the internet when it started nevermind now… it's always been there to catch the viewers around EastEnders, I thought.
MW
Mike W
BM11 posted:
I am suprised they didn't try at least doing only the national part - with the regional part cut.


I'd argue that they should have cut the national part and supplied the UK news video and scripts to the regional centres.
Let them put out the bulletins in a similar fashion to radio news bulletins where there is a mix of local and national stuff.

To my knowledge, all of the regional centres can access the footage and rushes so in theory they could do this already.

Certainly when Birmingham did news updates after The One Show in 2006 they would sometimes do the National and Regional headlines. I believe that was a 4 week pilot that lead to the 2007 pilot of the 8pm bulletin.

I just think the rationale for it existing isn't there any more because of Social Media, the presence of online news outlets and the target audience moving into new avenues to their news and current affairs.
SN
The SNT Three
BM11 posted:
I am suprised they didn't try at least doing only the national part - with the regional part cut.


I'd argue that they should have cut the national part and supplied the UK news video and scripts to the regional centres.
Let them put out the bulletins in a similar fashion to radio news bulletins where there is a mix of local and national stuff.

To my knowledge, all of the regional centres can access the footage and rushes so in theory they could do this already.

Certainly when Birmingham did news updates after The One Show in 2006 they would sometimes do the National and Regional headlines. I believe that was a 4 week pilot that lead to the 2007 pilot of the 8pm bulletin.

I just think the rationale for it existing isn't there any more because of Social Media, the presence of online news outlets and the target audience moving into new avenues to their news and current affairs.


I'll admit my memory is hazy, but three versions of the bulletin were trialled in 2007. Wasn't one of these versions entirely regional, but including national heads?
WA
watchingtv
This 8pm update should have been pushed heavily online throughout the night.
Or the BBC Three 60seconds style should have been adopted and again pushed heavily online.
AN
all new Phil
What do you mean by pushed heavily online?
IT
itsrobert Founding member
What do you mean by pushed heavily online?

Promoted?
IS
Inspector Sands

Can't see one on the app but good point about the Echo bulletins, even if it comes at the cost of Amazon and Google listening to everything you say.

That's not the way they work at all but, yeah....


As for where they come from, I'm sure I've heard Moria Stewart do one
NG
noggin Founding member

Or is the audience it was designed to serve now getting BBC News through other means (eg Newsbeat on Facebook) so it's raision d'etre is no longer valid?

That audience was getting news through the internet when it started nevermind now… it's always been there to catch the viewers around EastEnders, I thought.


I think one reason was that in surveys a significant number of people said they never watched any BBC News. By putting a bulletin before or after their most popular soap - they were aiming to engage an audience that doesn't normally watch the other bulletins.
NG
noggin Founding member
BM11 posted:
I am suprised they didn't try at least doing only the national part - with the regional part cut.


I'd argue that they should have cut the national part and supplied the UK news video and scripts to the regional centres.
Let them put out the bulletins in a similar fashion to radio news bulletins where there is a mix of local and national stuff.

To my knowledge, all of the regional centres can access the footage and rushes so in theory they could do this already.


Not quite - if rushes are digitised locally then they aren't available - but incoming line feeds, rushes digitised centrally, archive and cut sequences and packages should be available on W1 Jupiter (and a subset will be available via Davina)

Quote:

Certainly when Birmingham did news updates after The One Show in 2006 they would sometimes do the National and Regional headlines. I believe that was a 4 week pilot that lead to the 2007 pilot of the 8pm bulletin.


All nations and regions were fed pre-cut sequences as a line-feed from London, along with scripts on ENPS, for the national headlines after The One Show Birmingham pilots. There was an agreement that the post-One Show regional update would include national content written and edited in London by the network team.

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