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Is no one going to answer my question?
A former member
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Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
Is no one going to answer my question?
NG
Now that I've calmed down, I have a question. Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
The news (the facts are the facts whoever reports them...) isn't but the presentation is, as is the agenda (i.e. the amount of time dedicated to stories, and their order). If you compared the BBC Three 1900 bulletin with the BBC Four 2000 bulletin you can see how different two bulletins can be!
The 7 o'clock News is a 30 minute bulletin, like the One, Six or Ten on BBC One, or the BBC Four News. It therefore doesn't always cover the most recent breaking news, it covers what the programme editors believe to be the most important stories of the day.
The BBC Three bulletin also covers stuff in different ways to News 24 and the main BBC One bulletins. It has a couple of reporters of its own, and uses graphics and music far more creatively than some other BBC news programmes (though these techniques may not be suitable for mainstream news bulletins with a target audience covering a wider age-range)
BBC Three also run a long current-affairs type feature package (not usually an "on the day" story but one that has been developing) most nights - with studio interviews with "real" guests afterwards (something you don't see often on BBC One - where you normally only see reporters interviewed)
It also has a fantastic set - black and blue with lots of plasma screens and projectors.
noggin
Founding member
python posted:
James Hatts posted:
Just caught the end of the 7 o'clock news - strange to see Chris Eakin presenting a show like this.
Now that I've calmed down, I have a question. Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
The news (the facts are the facts whoever reports them...) isn't but the presentation is, as is the agenda (i.e. the amount of time dedicated to stories, and their order). If you compared the BBC Three 1900 bulletin with the BBC Four 2000 bulletin you can see how different two bulletins can be!
The 7 o'clock News is a 30 minute bulletin, like the One, Six or Ten on BBC One, or the BBC Four News. It therefore doesn't always cover the most recent breaking news, it covers what the programme editors believe to be the most important stories of the day.
The BBC Three bulletin also covers stuff in different ways to News 24 and the main BBC One bulletins. It has a couple of reporters of its own, and uses graphics and music far more creatively than some other BBC news programmes (though these techniques may not be suitable for mainstream news bulletins with a target audience covering a wider age-range)
BBC Three also run a long current-affairs type feature package (not usually an "on the day" story but one that has been developing) most nights - with studio interviews with "real" guests afterwards (something you don't see often on BBC One - where you normally only see reporters interviewed)
It also has a fantastic set - black and blue with lots of plasma screens and projectors.
NG
Now that I've calmed down, I have a question. Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
The news (the facts are the facts whoever reports them...) isn't but the presentation is, as is the agenda (i.e. the amount of time dedicated to stories, and their order). If you compared the BBC Three 1900 bulletin with the BBC Four 2000 bulletin you can see how different two bulletins can be!
The 7 o'clock News is a 30 minute bulletin, like the One, Six or Ten on BBC One, or the BBC Four News. It therefore doesn't always cover the most recent breaking news, it covers what the programme editors believe to be the most important stories of the day.
The BBC Three bulletin also covers stuff in different ways to News 24 and the main BBC One bulletins. It has a couple of reporters of its own, and uses graphics and music far more creatively than some other BBC news programmes (though these techniques may not be suitable for mainstream news bulletins with a target audience covering a wider age-range)
BBC Three also run a long current-affairs type feature package (not usually an "on the day" story but one that has been developing) most nights - with studio interviews with "real" guests afterwards (something you don't see often on BBC One - where you normally only see reporters interviewed)
It also has a fantastic set - black and blue with lots of plasma screens and projectors.
noggin
Founding member
python posted:
James Hatts posted:
Just caught the end of the 7 o'clock news - strange to see Chris Eakin presenting a show like this.
Now that I've calmed down, I have a question. Why do you think it odd for Chris to present this show, how is this news different from N24?
The news (the facts are the facts whoever reports them...) isn't but the presentation is, as is the agenda (i.e. the amount of time dedicated to stories, and their order). If you compared the BBC Three 1900 bulletin with the BBC Four 2000 bulletin you can see how different two bulletins can be!
The 7 o'clock News is a 30 minute bulletin, like the One, Six or Ten on BBC One, or the BBC Four News. It therefore doesn't always cover the most recent breaking news, it covers what the programme editors believe to be the most important stories of the day.
The BBC Three bulletin also covers stuff in different ways to News 24 and the main BBC One bulletins. It has a couple of reporters of its own, and uses graphics and music far more creatively than some other BBC news programmes (though these techniques may not be suitable for mainstream news bulletins with a target audience covering a wider age-range)
BBC Three also run a long current-affairs type feature package (not usually an "on the day" story but one that has been developing) most nights - with studio interviews with "real" guests afterwards (something you don't see often on BBC One - where you normally only see reporters interviewed)
It also has a fantastic set - black and blue with lots of plasma screens and projectors.
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Thank you. But why is Chris a surprising choice of presenter to some. I obviously perceive him in a different way than others and am curious how others see him.
A former member
Thank you. But why is Chris a surprising choice of presenter to some. I obviously perceive him in a different way than others and am curious how others see him.
LO
The other aspect that Noggin didn't mention is that the presenter has more freedom to stamp their own personality on the bulletin than is the case with any other BBC bulletin.
The regular presenter Eddie Mair has a very finely-tuned style which means he can 'get away with' bringing quite a humorous approach to the programme without detracting from the seriousness and authoritativeness of the news he is reporting.
It's a hard act for anyone else to follow.
I don't thing anyone has said that Chris Eakin is a bad choice, just a surprising one. None of us expected to see him presenting the programme.
Others who have presented the 7 O'Clock News are Paddy O'Connell and Guto Harri.
The regular presenter Eddie Mair has a very finely-tuned style which means he can 'get away with' bringing quite a humorous approach to the programme without detracting from the seriousness and authoritativeness of the news he is reporting.
It's a hard act for anyone else to follow.
I don't thing anyone has said that Chris Eakin is a bad choice, just a surprising one. None of us expected to see him presenting the programme.
Others who have presented the 7 O'Clock News are Paddy O'Connell and Guto Harri.
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A former member
I said 'surprising' didn't I? I see Chris as funny and witty though, do you not? He sounds good for that show to me, not having seen it of course. I don't want to make too much of this, I'm just curious. Never mind.
DO
To me, Chris Eakin is one of the more laid-back presenters on News 24, and easily fits the BBC Three News style (although I haven't seen him present it, so I can't pass judgement). With Eddie Mair, Paddy O'Connell and Guto Harri all apparently unavailable, they certainly could have come up with a lot worse.
DB
dbfriends
Founding member
I think he *could* be more laid-back... but he hasn't been doing so this week, it's been very much "just read the script", with only a couple of odd comments in the big interviews. Nothing up to Eddie (or indeed Paddy) standards tho... maybe he's just too used to serious presenting!
NG
Spot on James. The show does allow a degree of personality and humour to be employed. Eddie has a very distinctive style - even down to his looks at superimposed graphics (effectively saying "what on earth is that doing there?") Paddy is quite different - but also distinctive.
It is worth remembering that Chris was doing the 7 straight after a News 24 shift - so there is a significant gear-change in styles. (Eddie does PM on Radio 4 before the BBC Three show, and I think that is a nearer match in style?)
noggin
Founding member
James Hatts posted:
The other aspect that Noggin didn't mention is that the presenter has more freedom to stamp their own personality on the bulletin than is the case with any other BBC bulletin.
The regular presenter Eddie Mair has a very finely-tuned style which means he can 'get away with' bringing quite a humorous approach to the programme without detracting from the seriousness and authoritativeness of the news he is reporting.
It's a hard act for anyone else to follow.
I don't thing anyone has said that Chris Eakin is a bad choice, just a surprising one. None of us expected to see him presenting the programme.
Others who have presented the 7 O'Clock News are Paddy O'Connell and Guto Harri.
The regular presenter Eddie Mair has a very finely-tuned style which means he can 'get away with' bringing quite a humorous approach to the programme without detracting from the seriousness and authoritativeness of the news he is reporting.
It's a hard act for anyone else to follow.
I don't thing anyone has said that Chris Eakin is a bad choice, just a surprising one. None of us expected to see him presenting the programme.
Others who have presented the 7 O'Clock News are Paddy O'Connell and Guto Harri.
Spot on James. The show does allow a degree of personality and humour to be employed. Eddie has a very distinctive style - even down to his looks at superimposed graphics (effectively saying "what on earth is that doing there?") Paddy is quite different - but also distinctive.
It is worth remembering that Chris was doing the 7 straight after a News 24 shift - so there is a significant gear-change in styles. (Eddie does PM on Radio 4 before the BBC Three show, and I think that is a nearer match in style?)
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A former member
I appreciate your answers, but I can't say I'm much the wiser. The only person you mentioned that I am familiar with is Guto Hari, who never struck me as anything special, so I don't get the comparisons. I still don't see what's surprising......