New Daybreak Studio

I think it's asking too much from people making these SketchUp mocks (no, I don't care how powerful it can be, knock it off) to actually take into account such ludicrous things like practical set use and blueprints to show their work. No, just place things willy nilly, as long as it looks reasonable in their viewport that's fine.

Any chance we could set up a small moratorium on SketchUp use?

There's nothing wrong with SketchUp, provided the same rules keep asking for with normal mocks are applied, especially the "don't post something after you've spent five minutes working on it", and the "research what you're doing before you start" rules.

This is something I've been working on, in SketchUp, for over 6 months, when I've had some spare time and I've wanted something different to do...
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/sketchuprender.jpg
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/sketchuprender2.jpg
... as a result I've got a whole folder full of photos of the real life building, a sheet full of measurements worked out from those photos and various sources, and several bits of paper scattered around with various sketches of how I imagine it could all fit together.

See now that's what only legend (and to be fair the N6 example posted earlier) had previously suggested to me would be possible/should be expected.

So I have been cutting certain people too much slack; they've fooled me with plain old bad mocks... I feel sick.

I'm sure there's nothing wrong with SketchUp when used well but I've only ever seen two legitimately good uses for SketchUp that have been posted here besides your own work there, the rest has been Daybreak studios so maybe the bad use is down to a handful of incompetent users.

To be fair almost every mock here falls foul of breaking both rules of time invested and research performed, many are just done either on a whim or copying someone else's idea as with the rash of ITV logo mocks so its a huge ask expecting people to actually put work and time into these sorts of things when for them it's little more than doodling in the margins of their workbook. For those few who actually progressed into actual paid work doing this sort of thing, there is time spent and dedication involved and it shows. The rest... well, they're doing it because they had five minutes and came up with this idea they thought you might like which is the the exact same idea as the one they or someone else had recently and they're very sure this time you'll like it.

Doodling in the margins. Takes no skill, just need five minutes, a pencil or pen and a minute level of thought. This is all broad strokes, obviously it's not as black and white as I show it here.

In short, mocking is serius biznus because for all of the dross labelled "mock" here and everywhere else, there's a handful of stellar work and if what you're upto isn't at or even close to that level, don't post it. Nobody is interested in this idea you wanted to kick around, we aren't you sounding board for concepts.

I totally agree with what baa has said, unfortunately i do not believe for a second that the people who need to read it will even see it, and if they do, they arent going to pay a blind bit of attention. Something to do with instant gratification... there are plenty of other sites for that, we want to see effort, and effort shows in a mock. The vast majority of stuff in this gallery has had almost no effort put in, we definitely need Gallery Rules.

...oh and WOW dosxuk, I absolutely love the Broadcasting House pics, the effort really shows, cant wait to see it finished... PS. Please can you post them in their own thread so I can give them 5 stars.

http://youtu.be/GYMSDK7VDDQ

See what I mean about not caring about this? Usually I'd tell people to sweat over the details because they matter but when core elements aren't even working right it loses a little meaning. You have various issues, you know they're there and you don't know how to fix them yet you figure somehow that it's good enough to upload anyway.

You really have no concept of shame, do you? Don't tell me "ooh, but I'm learning", either bring us something which is actually good or don't bother. Bear in mind I haven't seen it, from this alone I doubt I need to.

The jittering is just an error in the video, the name strap was put in then the video was exported then I removed it without re- exporting it!

and the theme isn't my fault! haha I only have the normal theme without the buildup and the full theme with the build up!

Right now, none of that matters because apparently it's still processing after two hours. Consider it a gentle reminder to fix those issues before returning.

I really can not work out why certain people carry on posting this standard of work knowing the negativity they'll be on the end of.

It's instant gratification without the gratification, shirley? Who are they doing this for? Why inflict it on us, such an unappreciative audience? And if they're not after feedback, gee, isn't that what a blog's for?

Thanks for all of that? Its currently at 27% even though I clicked upload about 5 mins before the link was posted!