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Well...News Graphics and character 'generator' (November 2012)

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DO
dosxuk
One question, we are split on the set design: We have three panels that are currently painted white, would it be better to have 3 hidden projectors and project onto that, or to paint it a Chroma colour and key in our backdrop?


Both could look OK, both could look awful, there is no way for anyone here to say. In the real world, we'd try the options and iterate on the ideas.

Chroma key will have a better quality background than a projected image, but the keying will take time and effort to get working properly. Projection, while quicker and easier could easily be hampered by other lighting.

What's to stop you from painting a background? You could paint something like the following quick knock up onto your flats and then just use a simple luma key to put graphics onto it.

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/sr_bg.png

With presenter + graphics

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/sr_bg_out.png
DK
DanielK
Never thought of that! Quite a good idea, or simple CSO like the 90 second update. We'll try something like that.
DK
DanielK
There wont be much camera movement except for opening, closing and 'opt outs', so I don't think keying would be that much of a problem. Would it be worth it putting a SMART board in and projecting chroma green on, using it to control a laptop with news graphics and key them on top in post?

This is our projector, we have like 10 as portables, plus others that we can quickly de-mount from our classrooms and set up on set.

http://www.hitachidigitalmedia.com/product.do?actionName=showProductAction&pt=6&pg=59&proid=762&language=en&country=GB

Also, does anyone have tips on what type of camera move we should do for the open. close and opts?

We understand we need the following angles for each programme:
Breakfast
Presenter Two Shot
Presenter One Shot x2
Guest Left
Guest Right
Wide Left
Wide Right
Weather
' DTL/Live'


Network Bulletin
Presenter One Shot
Guest Left
Guest Right
Wide Left
Wide Right
Weather
'DTL/Live'

Yeargroup News (instead of Regional news)
Presenter Two Shot
Presenter One Shot x2
Guest Left
Guest Right
Wide Left
Wide Right
Weather
'DTL/Live'

Sports News (like Sportsday)
Presenter Two Shot
Presenter One Shot x2
Guest Left
Guest Right
Wide Left
Wide Right
'DTL/Live'
DO
dosxuk
Projecting chroma key green almost certainly won't work.

You might want to look at this thread - http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thegallery/virtual-studio-29908/
BA
Bail Moderator
Ha, that'll be mine then Smile Worth noting that the green screen shot at the end isn't actually the one used to key with, juts an approximation too look real.

I've since reused and updated that "set" I'll dig it out and post here if I can find.
DK
DanielK
That set looks really good! Would be good if you could post it up.

Daniel
DK
DanielK
BBC are supposed to be sending us the new NBH graphics and tweaked music for the SR. Quite interested to see it!
Last edited by DanielK on 8 January 2013 2:26am

34 days later

WA
WAYSIDE
Whats the latest on this project Smile
DK
DanielK
Looks great so far, used our senior pupils in the pilots and the real class are compiling their stories and practicing in the studio!
CR
Critique
Why are we still entertaining you?
BR
Brekkie
Are you not taking this a bit far? I thought the school report was just that - you film a report and then surely the BBC add any necessary astons (in the in house standard) and introduce it themselves. You're not hijacking the channel for the day so why worry about sets, graphics etc.

Surely it's the journalism that is key - reporting on a decent story which will be of interest more than just to people at your school. It is that which is likely to get such reports featured on BBC News, not creating a set, holding graphics and animated astons.
BA
bilky asko
Are you not taking this a bit far? I thought the school report was just that - you film a report and then surely the BBC add any necessary astons (in the in house standard) and introduce it themselves. You're not hijacking the channel for the day so why worry about sets, graphics etc.

Surely it's the journalism that is key - reporting on a decent story which will be of interest more than just to people at your school. It is that which is likely to get such reports featured on BBC News, not creating a set, holding graphics and animated astons.

No - each school produces a whole programme. Featured reports are taken, though.

The basis of the School Report programme is journalism though.

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