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TWL959 posts since 19 Aug 2019 new member
Granada Wales Today
I saw the TV package for BBC Scotland last month and was impressed by it, but it got me thinking, what would BBC Wales as a TV Channel would look like.

So I took some research into the subject and I know BBC Scotland is practically BBC 2 in Scotland during the daytime with a different schedule from the evening onwards (like BBC Three in a way), a schedule with programmes fitting to Scottish made programmes, so the idea for BBC Wales is to have Welsh based programmes.

The way I want BBC Wales to work is to takeover from BBC 2 Wales in the evenings (which saves trying to find a suitable separate slot on the TV guide, so it introduces BBC Wales as a TV Channel with a major TV timeslot without completely ousting BBC 2 Wales.

I got to work on the layout of what the BBC Wales logo would look like (again taken inspiration from BBC Scotland with it's S logo and edited it into 3 slanted/curved boxes to make it like a W) and this is what I came up with as a start:

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Now some of you are probably thinking "Why not have the Welsh Dragon there?", the thing is I want to make it as simple and focus on as much Welsh features as possible and not just the dragon.

Launch Cap:

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The Idents will mainly have motifs that what make up the Welsh flag in essence, there are 5 Idents in particular and use music from the BBC Cymru Wales Frontcap from Late 2008 and feature some of Wale's biggest landmarks and sights (tried to make 6 with the 6th being the beginning of the Offas Dyke trail in Prestatyn, but no footage can be had), here they are:

BBC Wales - Pierhead Building and Senedd:



BBC Wales - Wales Millennium Centre



BBC Wales - Pembrokeshire



BBC Wales - Snowdonia



BBC Wales - North Wales Beach



I also included what the BBC Wales Day Menu and Slide would look like, based the menu off what the BBC Menu's were back in the 90's, with a modern approach to it ofcourse:

BBC Wales Menu:

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BBC Wales Programme Promotion Slide:

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I will add what a BBC Wales TV Channel Continuity would look like (which will include introductions to Programmes and a Closedown, so plenty to look forward to...

Suggestions and Feedback is appreciated, Improvement is needed so thanks for viewing first time round...
Brekkie31,821 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Nice idea to build a mock around but just can't get past the logo - it just looks dated and cheap I'm afraid and causes all sorts of alignment issues, however nicely it is integrated into the idents.
Last edited by Brekkie on 20 August 2019 1:46pm
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RDJ2,720 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
The logo is bad. The slanted-ness of it makes it impossible for anything to be symmetrical... so it just looks messy.

It reminds me of what should have been a BBC1 Wales logo in the 70's.

Nice concept but it's not going to go any further until you find a new logo that works.
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VMPhil9,785 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
It’s been a loooong time since I was passionate about something posted in The Gallery, but I love this.

The menus and slides are a bit basic, but what wins me over with this are the idents.

Often the question is asked, ‘can I see these being shown on television?’, and the answer for these is 100% yes. Well made, consistent design, good soundtrack, good concept.

They remind me a bit of the original BBC Choice ‘Heart’ ident and the concept of ‘Window on the World’ from BBC Two’s 2007 idents.

Perhaps the angle on the shapes in the logo is too steep, but that can be easily rectified and I wouldn’t give up on the idea.

Can’t wait to see more of your work.
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TWL959 posts since 19 Aug 2019 new member
Granada Wales Today
Thanks for the feedback so far...

So the logo will be changed to make it less slanted, it will still be slanted, just not as much as you see it now in order to make it less steeper, any other ideas that can be changed to make the logo better? (not too extravagant)
Sh1ruba287 posts since 13 Jan 2019 Recently warned
Central (West) Midlands Today
Thanks for the feedback so far...

So the logo will be changed to make it less slanted, it will still be slanted, just not as much as you see it now in order to make it less steeper, any other ideas that can be changed to make the logo better? (not too extravagant)

Maybe use the BBC Reith font to keep it line with the rest of the BBC?
Also make it a little less wider and bigger?
TWL959 posts since 19 Aug 2019 new member
Granada Wales Today
So had a workaround and listening to the advice this is what I done:

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I also included the BBC Reith Sans font to make it more in line with BBC's Services

please let me know if this is ok or if more improvement should be made to it