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JamesTV277 posts since 4 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight
Have you not yet understood why your mocks are usually poorly received on this forum?

Any actual feedback on how to improve?


Yes - come up with something original instead of making derivatives of other people's ideas or poor recreations of what we already see on TV.


Please stop accusing us of copying other peoples ideas. We're just creating graphics for the new ITV shows. If we're copying anyone's ideas, we're copying ITV's idea of branding their news shows Lunchtime News, Evening News and News at Ten!

We would like feedback about our graphics, not your constant moaning that we are copying others ideas.
PATV Scunthorpe516 posts since 2 Sep 2014
Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Have you not yet understood why your mocks are usually poorly received on this forum?

Any actual feedback on how to improve?


Yes - come up with something original instead of making derivatives of other people's ideas or poor recreations of what we already see on TV.


Yeah, so mdtauk suddenly decided to restart his BBC rebrand after seeing Whataday's mock?
"All that I want, is to wake up fine, tell me that I'm alright, that I ain't gonna die, and all that I want, is a hole in the ground, you can tell me that it's alright, for me to come out."
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Nicky (previously BBCNicky) 2,896 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Sorry, but whose idea have a copied?

Whenever I am original (Weekend, BBC News On Demand) it's labelled fantasising and ridiculous.

This set of graphics fit with the current brand, but is still noticeably different.

NB. If you are going to be nasty, please just stay away from this thread.


Take a step back and ask yourself what that tells you about your mocking abilities. Sorry if the truth hurts, but you're clearly not pleasing the majority who've viewed this thread - you've got 15 votes and still got your 'poor' outcome. (*Awaits an ally to vote tactically*)

NB. If you're unable to accept that people don't like your mocks, please just stay away from this forum.
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Aaron_2015669 posts since 11 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight
15 votes maybe, but only a couple of bits of feedback. Are you seeing the problem?

You expect me to improve, but will only criticise and accuse. You don't like my mock, but you obviously have no idea on how you would improve it.

Generally, you (and only you) get particularly nasty, so I was just warning you not to bother if you intended to turn things sour.

Anyway, your continued accusations of plagiarism have been reported. Clearly, you are a good friend of Pad, so will defend him, but continuous accusations are not necessary (and certainly aren't constructive, are they?)
pad3,161 posts since 12 Feb 2005
Aaron, I can tell you quite categorically I have never spoken one on one with BBCNicky in all my years on this forum. So we are not "good friends" by any stretch. I've stayed out of this argument until now but now want to intervene as I feel you are attacking someone who is not only defending me but also stating a clearly valid truth.

You are being rather babyish and machiavellian in trying to keep a poker face over your mimicry. Your designs were 3rd in line after mine were posted, and you have taken the ideas further, as is your right. But lying about it so blatantly is not going to endear anyone to you.

You won't admit it now for this set of mocks but in future, if you are inspired by another person's mock designs, try crediting them in your original post. It won't make YOUR INTERPRETATION of that idea better or worse; it will, however, give you a bit more credibility and seem a bit more humble. If one of the forum's best mockers like mbta or Lee or someone posted work like this and said "I was looking at pad's ideas for ITV News and thought I'd give that a go myself" and produced something award winningly wonderful (as they likely would) you wouldn't see anyone giving them less praise, myself included. We're all at different levels.

As for the mocks, I don't like the titles (worst of all 3 attempts) particularly the smaller squares; however your astons are probably the best of all 3 interpretations.
Last edited by pad on 24 October 2015 10:04pm
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Aaron_2015669 posts since 11 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight
Aaron, I can tell you quite categorically I have never spoken one on one with BBCNicky in all my years on this forum. So we are not "good friends" by any stretch. I've stayed out of this argument until now but now want to intervene as I feel you are attacking someone who is not only defending me but also stating a clearly valid truth.

You are being rather babyish and machiavellian in trying to keep a poker face over your mimicry. Your designs were 3rd in line after mine were posted, and you have taken the ideas further, as is your right. But lying about it so blatantly is not going to endear anyone to you.

You won't admit it now for this set of mocks but in future, if you are inspired by another person's mock designs, try crediting them in your original post. It won't make YOUR INTERPRETATION of that idea better or worse; it will, however, give you a bit more credibility and seem a bit more humble. If one of the forum's best mockers like mbta or Lee or someone posted work like this and said "I was looking at pad's ideas for ITV News and thought I'd give that a go myself" and produced something award winningly wonderful (as they likely would) you wouldn't see anyone giving them less praise, myself included. We're all at different levels.

As for the mocks, I don't like the titles (worst of all 3 attempts) particularly the smaller squares; however your astons are probably the best of all 3 interpretations.


As I have explained in a separate thread, my mock is NOT an interpretation of your logo designs. It just isn't. Please refrain from calling me a blatant liar unless you have solid evidence to suggest so.
pad3,161 posts since 12 Feb 2005
Aaron, I can tell you quite categorically I have never spoken one on one with BBCNicky in all my years on this forum. So we are not "good friends" by any stretch. I've stayed out of this argument until now but now want to intervene as I feel you are attacking someone who is not only defending me but also stating a clearly valid truth.

You are being rather babyish and machiavellian in trying to keep a poker face over your mimicry. Your designs were 3rd in line after mine were posted, and you have taken the ideas further, as is your right. But lying about it so blatantly is not going to endear anyone to you.

You won't admit it now for this set of mocks but in future, if you are inspired by another person's mock designs, try crediting them in your original post. It won't make YOUR INTERPRETATION of that idea better or worse; it will, however, give you a bit more credibility and seem a bit more humble. If one of the forum's best mockers like mbta or Lee or someone posted work like this and said "I was looking at pad's ideas for ITV News and thought I'd give that a go myself" and produced something award winningly wonderful (as they likely would) you wouldn't see anyone giving them less praise, myself included. We're all at different levels.

As for the mocks, I don't like the titles (worst of all 3 attempts) particularly the smaller squares; however your astons are probably the best of all 3 interpretations.


As I have explained in a separate thread, my mock is NOT an interpretation of your logo designs. It just isn't. Please refrain from calling me a blatant liar unless you have solid evidence to suggest so.


Please upload a screenshot of your "Get info" screen on your computer for your mocks showing the "Date Created" then. 😊

Actually don't bother, you'll already be on Google or Photoshop to doctor the result.

I - and others - would have given your mocks more attention if you'd just been honest.
Aaron_2015669 posts since 11 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight
Aaron, I can tell you quite categorically I have never spoken one on one with BBCNicky in all my years on this forum. So we are not "good friends" by any stretch. I've stayed out of this argument until now but now want to intervene as I feel you are attacking someone who is not only defending me but also stating a clearly valid truth.

You are being rather babyish and machiavellian in trying to keep a poker face over your mimicry. Your designs were 3rd in line after mine were posted, and you have taken the ideas further, as is your right. But lying about it so blatantly is not going to endear anyone to you.

You won't admit it now for this set of mocks but in future, if you are inspired by another person's mock designs, try crediting them in your original post. It won't make YOUR INTERPRETATION of that idea better or worse; it will, however, give you a bit more credibility and seem a bit more humble. If one of the forum's best mockers like mbta or Lee or someone posted work like this and said "I was looking at pad's ideas for ITV News and thought I'd give that a go myself" and produced something award winningly wonderful (as they likely would) you wouldn't see anyone giving them less praise, myself included. We're all at different levels.

As for the mocks, I don't like the titles (worst of all 3 attempts) particularly the smaller squares; however your astons are probably the best of all 3 interpretations.


As I have explained in a separate thread, my mock is NOT an interpretation of your logo designs. It just isn't. Please refrain from calling me a blatant liar unless you have solid evidence to suggest so.


Please upload a screenshot of your "Get info" screen on your computer for your mocks showing the "Date Created" then. 😊

Actually don't bother, you'll already be on Google or Photoshop to doctor the result.

I - and others - would have given your mocks more attention if you'd just been honest.


God what's wrong with you?
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Critique2,800 posts since 9 Aug 2009
Anglia (East) Look East

Generally, you (and only you) get particularly nasty


Hey, have you forgotten about me? Sad

I particularly dislike how you have tried to cram a studio mock into this as well, but because it's such a rush job you've only modeled a poor recreation of the current desk and rostrum, and not bothered with the rest of the set. At least make an effort.

Furthermore, there is no point 'trailing ahead' to things you're going to post in the future, when the other two members of the victim support group you seem to have formed are the only ones that seem to care. You have done this in both this thread and your ITV Weekend thread, with your ITV Weekend thread the worse example as the last two posts in it are you going on about what's coming up, and the entire page is just posts from you and your fellow musketeers, bar one post from HarryBNF. And you seem to have ignored the criticism posted in that thread meaning your mock is still very poor. You are the new TVMocker14.
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Justin287 posts since 9 Oct 2014
BBC World
[quote="Aaron_2015" pid="978662]This set of graphics fit with the current brand, but is still noticeably different.[/quote]
Why though? Everyone would love to have new shiny graphics every year but how does this help with furthering their brand?

You expect me to improve, but will only criticise and accuse. You don't like my mock, but you obviously have no idea on how you would improve it.

If there was someone that tried putting solar panels next to the sun to alleviate climate change and we call it stupid. Does that require us to suggest a solution to climate change when making that comment? The reason you have gotten flak is because you are creating an inferior derivative of the current titles and other people's mocks that really doesn't show any value.
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Aaron_2015669 posts since 11 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight

Generally, you (and only you) get particularly nasty


Hey, have you forgotten about me? Sad

I particularly dislike how you have tried to cram a studio mock into this as well, but because it's such a rush job you've only modeled a poor recreation of the current desk and rostrum, and not bothered with the rest of the set. At least make an effort.

Furthermore, there is no point 'trailing ahead' to things you're going to post in the future, when the other two members of the victim support group you seem to have formed are the only ones that seem to care. You have done this in both this thread and your ITV Weekend thread, with your ITV Weekend thread the worse example as the last two posts in it are you going on about what's coming up, and the entire page is just posts from you and your fellow musketeers, bar one post from HarryBNF. And you seem to have ignored the criticism posted in that thread meaning your mock is still very poor. You are the new TVMocker14.


Why would I make the rest of the set? It's CGI, there's no point. Unless you would expect a full rendered set, with the newsroom background, just to show a tweak to the desk? That would be a total waste of time (and would basically be a set recreation).

What criticism am I supposed to have ignored? There was none. Once again, it's a case of "I think it's awful, but have no idea how to improve it, so I'll just call it rubbish and move on"

Quite frankly, I'm sick of this now. The argument was done, but more of you just can't help chucking your valuable opinions in.

Why don't we just agree that if you aren't providing constructive criticism (or congratulating someone), just stay away from the mock thread.
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