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BBC TWO trail and/or programme slide idea

What if the programme was part of an ident? (December 2020)

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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
They're all meant to be rough copies, with random images and several visual mistakes. I might try a new style of doing this, and if it doesn't work, I might try another channel.


Can I respectfully suggest that the whole point of the gallery is "Showcasing member recreations and design ideas for television". Nothing of what you've posted looks like it would be seen normally on TV, this is the sort of output you would get entirely by accident if two sources were mixed together in a visual mixer or there was major technological failure.

We do aim for some sort of standard in here, this isn't a dumping ground for half-baked ideas. I would suggest you finish baking them (so to speak) and then post the work. At the moment it looks like you've just discovered how to do layers in Gimp/Paint.net and you're playing by mixing images together without any thought about how they work together.

As an example, you've slapped a modern 2 ident on Test Card W. In what situation would that ever happen? If you want to mash them together to create something new that's fine, but sticking two images together willy-nilly is not the way to do it. You would probably do better to take the original picture of Carole Hersee and Bubbles and position it appropriately in the frame, rather than covering him up just because that's what the ident style dicates. TL;DR - think about what you're doing before you do it.
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LW
LWTfan1968
They're all meant to be rough copies, with random images and several visual mistakes. I might try a new style of doing this, and if it doesn't work, I might try another channel.


Can I respectfully suggest that the whole point of the gallery is "Showcasing member recreations and design ideas for television". Nothing of what you've posted looks like it would be seen normally on TV, this is the sort of output you would get entirely by accident if two sources were mixed together in a visual mixer or there was major technological failure.

We do aim for some sort of standard in here, this isn't a dumping ground for half-baked ideas. I would suggest you finish baking them (so to speak) and then post the work. At the moment it looks like you've just discovered how to do layers in Gimp/Paint.net and you're playing by mixing images together without any thought about how they work together.

As an example, you've slapped a modern 2 ident on Test Card W. In what situation would that ever happen? If you want to mash them together to create something new that's fine, but sticking two images together willy-nilly is not the way to do it. You would probably do better to take the original picture of Carole Hersee and Bubbles and position it appropriately in the frame, rather than covering him up just because that's what the ident style dicates. TL;DR - think about what you're doing before you do it.


Test Card W was just a placeholder, because as I have already explained, I was just testing to see how the programme slide or still would fit on one side of the curve. I'm going to edit it with an actual still right now.
LW
LWTfan1968


A fresh attempt. It would be hard to animate the curve (I'm 15 and broke), but ideally the curve would move like it does in Authoritive or Thought-Provoking. Here the promo/trail is for Newsnight.

Also it's a static video so that it would show up easier.
DM
DeMarkay
I’ve been on TVF for five years now, and my mocks aren’t exactly top notch, but they are decent ideas that need tweaking.

I’d respectfully say to go back to the drawing board, watch some handy tutorials for Photoshop on YouTube and take notice of what other mockers are doing.

Good luck.
EM
Emily Moore


A fresh attempt. It would be hard to animate the curve (I'm 15 and broke), but ideally the curve would move like it does in Authoritive or Thought-Provoking. Here the promo/trail is for Newsnight.

Also it's a static video so that it would show up easier.


Why is this a ten-second video of a static image instead of just a static image?
LW
LWTfan1968


A fresh attempt. It would be hard to animate the curve (I'm 15 and broke), but ideally the curve would move like it does in Authoritive or Thought-Provoking. Here the promo/trail is for Newsnight.

Also it's a static video so that it would show up easier.


Why is this a ten-second video of a static image instead of just a static image?

Because I can't get the static images to upload via Metropol, so I did it as a video so that it would show up properly.
LW
LWTfan1968
Cavan posted:
Even after two slideshows worth of images, I still have no clue what you're attempting to achieve here.

I was trying to make it so that the programme trail/promo would end as part of the ident (1/2 of the Curve, inside the 2) and vica versa (don't ask why the 2 is outside TLS at one point). It didn't work well though.
LW
LWTfan1968
Don't know where else to put this but here, but I just realized that a lot of the 2s have similar BGs... I might have an idea of what to do with this...
LW
LWTfan1968
https://kapwi.ng/c/OPZy54N1
https://kapwi.ng/c/3psvOqZ6
https://kapwi.ng/c/9GQnn7Bg

Three concepts for a sort of 2-in-1 2 (might try with curves, although I can't imagine they'll be any good). The first one is the best IMHO, because the other two have issues lining up. If you get a 404 PM me and i'll try to rectify it.
CA
Cavan
Cavan posted:
Even after two slideshows worth of images, I still have no clue what you're attempting to achieve here.

I was trying to make it so that the programme trail/promo would end as part of the ident (1/2 of the Curve, inside the 2) and vica versa (don't ask why the 2 is outside TLS at one point). It didn't work well though.

Yes, that may be what you're doing literally, but my point is that there is pretty much no substance to what you're doing. You posted a slideshow incorporating elements from both the Curves sets and the 90s set, and now you've moved onto mock idents where you (roughly) apply the Background Eraser tool to one ident and then lay it over another.

It's obvious that you're just experimenting with Photoshop tools. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but, as you have admitted, these are barely ideas. How about you spend some time getting to know your software and then come back later with something that has a little more meat to it?
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